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Jason P · 02-20-2013, 12:50 PM

I have hotchkis sway bars but the mounting points are the same. The biggest difference are the 3 mounting points for the diff. and the bolt sizes for assembly.

10 2SS/RS 6M · 02-20-2013, 01:45 PM

What gear ratio does it have? Are they the same as the SS's auto and manual gear ratio's. I wonder if when you order the kit there will be different gear ratio's to choose from? Anyway good luck with it, keep us posted!

Jason P · 02-20-2013, 01:47 PM

Mine is from a manual 3.73 The autos are higher geared but don't recall the ratio

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 02-20-2013, 02:40 PM

Jason P have you tried putting the ZL1 diff in your ss cradle or a're you just swapping parts from the ss to the ZL1 cradle? The kit is supposed be a bolt in kit( may require additional parts). If I don't have to wait for the kit I don't want to.

Jason P · 02-20-2013, 03:33 PM

The zl1 diff physically won't fit in the ss cradle unless you do some cutting and welding.

10 2SS/RS 6M · 02-20-2013, 05:17 PM

If I can save a couple grand doing the ZL1 upgrade, even if I have to do some cutting and welding then that's more money to upgrade the trans and clutch!

That's the ratio I want too! Thanks for the info, please post when you have it all together, are you using the cooler?

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 02-22-2013, 06:23 PM

Talked with ADM and the ZL1 diff fits the ss subframe no modification needed. So it looks like i have another project to start before spring and going back to work.

xjer22x · 02-22-2013, 07:58 PM

Thanks for the clarification.

sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors.

10 2SS/RS 6M · 02-23-2013, 08:29 PM

That would make it a lot easier if that's correct.

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 02-23-2013, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by*Stealth 2010 2SS/RSdo you have any pics of the diff swap that you guys did? Will the ZL1 diff fit in the ss sub frame? if this is supposed to be a bolt in kit from gm why won't the diff fit? thanks for any info you can share, Bob.

ADM response.

No pics,Sorr Alright with my wife because I only got to get there anywaysy!We have installed the zl1 diff in an SS FRAME once,everything Bolts right in with no clearance issues.I do like the zl1 subframe better as it has larger bolts for the swaybar as well as 1 larger bolt up top in a key spot for strength. Good luck and if you need one of our trams flanges we have plenty in stoc

JusticePete · 02-23-2013, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MA2010SS

Thank you! Don't mean to hijack but any specials on the rear cradle bushing inserts? I am doing a fuel pump soon and since I will have the cradle out might as well do at least the inserts...PM with a price shipped to 02725

Thanks

Sorry I missed this one.

MA2010SS · 02-24-2013, 04:37 PM

I just took out the rear sub frame on my car and there is a lot of room to work with, I really don't see GM selling a bolt in kit and then making the customer "hack" the existing sub frame to make it work. I am installing a new fuel pump, axles and driveshaft. Figure I would take a couple of pics so you guys can see how much room there is.

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 02-24-2013, 06:13 PM

Lots of room for the diff, confirmed it with ADM. look two post above.

10 2SS/RS 6M · 02-24-2013, 07:30 PM

Time to start ordering,

02-20-2013, 12:50 PM	#85
Jason P Drives: 2011 2ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: United States Posts: 272	I have hotchkis sway bars but the mounting points are the same. The biggest difference are the 3 mounting points for the diff. and the bolt sizes for assembly. __________________ 2011 2ss Ram twin plate ceramic clutch, Texas speed 418 LS3 235 /243 .621 / .624 cam, ported and polished heads with dual springs,magnum push rods, Hotchkis race pack, Stainless Power long tube headers with no cats, Magna Flo competition exhaust, lpe fuel pump, magnuson supercharger with overdrive and port matched blower plate, IW 8 rib pullies, AEM meth kit, id 850 injectors, 3 bar map, halltech cai, zl1 rear diff

02-20-2013, 01:45 PM	#86
10 2SS/RS 6M Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 bone stock 9K miles Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 389 View My Garage	What gear ratio does it have? Are they the same as the SS's auto and manual gear ratio's. I wonder if when you order the kit there will be different gear ratio's to choose from? Anyway good luck with it, keep us posted! __________________ SLP- long tube headers, hi flow cats w/full SLP 3'' PowerFlo exhaust incl/X-pipe, 160 degree stat, SLP Blackwing CAI. Dyno tuned by ECS-407/409RWHP&TQ. BMR- trailing arms w/poly knuckle bushings, toe links, cradle bushings and differential bushings. QA1 rear lower control arms. Hurst short throw shifter, SS- level 4 axles, DSS- aluminum driveshaft, Pfadt- sport 1.5" rear sway-bar. SPOHN 1.25" front sway-bar. Monster LT1-S twin clutch. Prothane motor mounts. Best 1/4 mile so far- 12:70ET @ 112.24 MPH w/ 2.06 second 60'. SOLD.

02-20-2013, 01:47 PM	#87
Jason P Drives: 2011 2ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: United States Posts: 272	Mine is from a manual 3.73 The autos are higher geared but don't recall the ratio __________________ 2011 2ss Ram twin plate ceramic clutch, Texas speed 418 LS3 235 /243 .621 / .624 cam, ported and polished heads with dual springs,magnum push rods, Hotchkis race pack, Stainless Power long tube headers with no cats, Magna Flo competition exhaust, lpe fuel pump, magnuson supercharger with overdrive and port matched blower plate, IW 8 rib pullies, AEM meth kit, id 850 injectors, 3 bar map, halltech cai, zl1 rear diff

02-20-2013, 02:40 PM	#88
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 494 View My Garage	Jason P have you tried putting the ZL1 diff in your ss cradle or a're you just swapping parts from the ss to the ZL1 cradle? The kit is supposed be a bolt in kit( may require additional parts). If I don't have to wait for the kit I don't want to. __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME MGW Short Throw Shifter Complete ZL1 Rearend Swap

02-20-2013, 03:33 PM	#89
Jason P Drives: 2011 2ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: United States Posts: 272	The zl1 diff physically won't fit in the ss cradle unless you do some cutting and welding. __________________ 2011 2ss Ram twin plate ceramic clutch, Texas speed 418 LS3 235 /243 .621 / .624 cam, ported and polished heads with dual springs,magnum push rods, Hotchkis race pack, Stainless Power long tube headers with no cats, Magna Flo competition exhaust, lpe fuel pump, magnuson supercharger with overdrive and port matched blower plate, IW 8 rib pullies, AEM meth kit, id 850 injectors, 3 bar map, halltech cai, zl1 rear diff

02-20-2013, 05:17 PM	#90
10 2SS/RS 6M Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 bone stock 9K miles Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 389 View My Garage	If I can save a couple grand doing the ZL1 upgrade, even if I have to do some cutting and welding then that's more money to upgrade the trans and clutch! That's the ratio I want too! Thanks for the info, please post when you have it all together, are you using the cooler? __________________ SLP- long tube headers, hi flow cats w/full SLP 3'' PowerFlo exhaust incl/X-pipe, 160 degree stat, SLP Blackwing CAI. Dyno tuned by ECS-407/409RWHP&TQ. BMR- trailing arms w/poly knuckle bushings, toe links, cradle bushings and differential bushings. QA1 rear lower control arms. Hurst short throw shifter, SS- level 4 axles, DSS- aluminum driveshaft, Pfadt- sport 1.5" rear sway-bar. SPOHN 1.25" front sway-bar. Monster LT1-S twin clutch. Prothane motor mounts. Best 1/4 mile so far- 12:70ET @ 112.24 MPH w/ 2.06 second 60'. SOLD.

02-22-2013, 06:23 PM	#91
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 494 View My Garage	Talked with ADM and the ZL1 diff fits the ss subframe no modification needed. So it looks like i have another project to start before spring and going back to work. __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME MGW Short Throw Shifter Complete ZL1 Rearend Swap

02-22-2013, 07:58 PM	#92
xjer22x Drives: 2010 rs/ss black # 10,308 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: hoffman estates, il Posts: 914 View My Garage	Thanks for the clarification. sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors. __________________ SYCK SS BUILD JOURNAL- Click here

02-23-2013, 08:29 PM	#93
10 2SS/RS 6M Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 bone stock 9K miles Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 389 View My Garage	That would make it a lot easier if that's correct. __________________ SLP- long tube headers, hi flow cats w/full SLP 3'' PowerFlo exhaust incl/X-pipe, 160 degree stat, SLP Blackwing CAI. Dyno tuned by ECS-407/409RWHP&TQ. BMR- trailing arms w/poly knuckle bushings, toe links, cradle bushings and differential bushings. QA1 rear lower control arms. Hurst short throw shifter, SS- level 4 axles, DSS- aluminum driveshaft, Pfadt- sport 1.5" rear sway-bar. SPOHN 1.25" front sway-bar. Monster LT1-S twin clutch. Prothane motor mounts. Best 1/4 mile so far- 12:70ET @ 112.24 MPH w/ 2.06 second 60'. SOLD.

02-23-2013, 09:23 PM	#94
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 494 View My Garage	Originally Posted by*Stealth 2010 2SS/RSdo you have any pics of the diff swap that you guys did? Will the ZL1 diff fit in the ss sub frame? if this is supposed to be a bolt in kit from gm why won't the diff fit? thanks for any info you can share, Bob. ADM response. No pics,Sorr Alright with my wife because I only got to get there anywaysy!We have installed the zl1 diff in an SS FRAME once,everything Bolts right in with no clearance issues.I do like the zl1 subframe better as it has larger bolts for the swaybar as well as 1 larger bolt up top in a key spot for strength. Good luck and if you need one of our trams flanges we have plenty in stoc __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME MGW Short Throw Shifter Complete ZL1 Rearend Swap

02-24-2013, 04:37 PM	#96
MA2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somerset MA Posts: 725 View My Garage	I just took out the rear sub frame on my car and there is a lot of room to work with, I really don't see GM selling a bolt in kit and then making the customer "hack" the existing sub frame to make it work. I am installing a new fuel pump, axles and driveshaft. Figure I would take a couple of pics so you guys can see how much room there is. Attached Images __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Whipple SC, CAI Inc Intake, TSP 1 7/8" LT headers no cats, 3" magnaflow exhaust, HPT, RX Catch Can, LSR Toe Rods, LSR Trailing Arms, ALKY Control Meth, McLeod RXT Twin Disc, ZL1 fuel pump, 3.73 ZL1 Differential Kit, BTR PDS Stage 2 Cam, Tuned by SLOWHAWK Performance Bridgewater MA

02-24-2013, 06:13 PM	#97
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 494 View My Garage	Lots of room for the diff, confirmed it with ADM. look two post above. __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME MGW Short Throw Shifter Complete ZL1 Rearend Swap

02-24-2013, 07:30 PM	#98
10 2SS/RS 6M Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 bone stock 9K miles Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 389 View My Garage	Time to start ordering, __________________ SLP- long tube headers, hi flow cats w/full SLP 3'' PowerFlo exhaust incl/X-pipe, 160 degree stat, SLP Blackwing CAI. Dyno tuned by ECS-407/409RWHP&TQ. BMR- trailing arms w/poly knuckle bushings, toe links, cradle bushings and differential bushings. QA1 rear lower control arms. Hurst short throw shifter, SS- level 4 axles, DSS- aluminum driveshaft, Pfadt- sport 1.5" rear sway-bar. SPOHN 1.25" front sway-bar. Monster LT1-S twin clutch. Prothane motor mounts. Best 1/4 mile so far- 12:70ET @ 112.24 MPH w/ 2.06 second 60'. SOLD.