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jmaryt · 01-19-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mhood

GM got so very much right with the gen5 Camaro. Everybody loves it...I love it too. BUT why couldn't they have put a better shifting m6 tranny/clutch into this wonderful car? I've owned many more manuals than autos in my life...learned to drive in a Morris Minor m4...was power shifting my '69 Road Runner when I was 17. This is the hardest shifting manual I have every had. Forget power shifting...forget quick shifting...don't count on getting into 3rd cleanly (you'll miss it as often as you hit it)...get used to that grinding feel...learn to live with the strange clutch behavior...I actually missed 2nd today...2nd!!!!!

It's such a gr8 car but I sure know what the weak link is.

the aisin ay6 acts in a similar way!..can't believe it!..2nd to 3rd can be "nasty!"
i hope at some point they put out a service bulletin on this!..(hot damn!)
i read the tranny's made in "japan"..it's ironic,because aisin makes the tranny for the mazda mx-5!..one of the best roadsters ever made,and the trans is super slick!..one of the best trannys ever produced too!

jmaryt · 01-19-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

The manual transmission is definately a weak link.

ok!..so that being said,is the "general" aware of what's going on?..if so,.anybody heard of them offering a solution?..appears a lot of problems with BOTH the tremec,..AND the aisin!..?????

ex-SS-ve · 01-19-2011, 11:34 PM

Its all in the factory shifter its pretty much null and void at best! And being that its a remote style shifter doesnt help any.

phenixdragon · 01-19-2011, 11:42 PM

Feels just as smooth to me as the 4 or 5 other types of cars I have had with a stick. Only downside is the nob is so big but you can get a new nob or get use to it like I did.

My 5th · 01-19-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SlingShot

May sound silly , but I've found it best to treat it like a woman ... Don't try and force it, go easy and it slips right in.

Er...yes, and like a woman, it helps to warm her up a little before getting on her--you know the lube flows better when HOT!

*Milk 1027* · 01-20-2011, 12:24 AM

I've driven other cars with the Tremec, and this setup is not as smooth as others. The current Camaro setup needs to change or use a different transmission. Because this one is just not as smooth as others.

midnighter · 01-20-2011, 12:31 AM

I beg to differ

TaylorRyanSS · 01-20-2011, 01:35 AM

This is my first manual so I do not know any different, but the car seems easy to shift to me

Alain · 01-20-2011, 06:52 AM

the trany is garbage, the clutch is garbage. good old american muscle car and you can't even rip through the gears..... it's a freaking disgrace.

anyone who doesn't see this transmission sucks, you are in denial !!

mhood · 01-20-2011, 08:09 AM

Would a Hurst ST help any?

PB3 · 01-20-2011, 08:19 AM

couple of folks here have said replacing the trany fluid with either RP or Mobile 1 have noticed a slight change in the feel. I plan on changing the trany and rear diff soon.

I do agree though, I have missed second on a few occasions.

Dan@showstopper · 01-20-2011, 09:33 AM

I've got an MGW and have never shifted a car faster in my life. I rarely miss any gears and if I do it's my fault. I don't understand everyone's contention.

mhood · 01-20-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan@showstopper

I've got an MGW and have never shifted a car faster in my life. I rarely miss any gears and if I do it's my fault. I don't understand everyone's contention.

Do you power shift? Have any suggestions for ways to improve my car's shifting performance or is it all operator error? As I said, I was racing my 1969 Plymouth Road Runner at Whitehouse in Tyler back in the early '70s and never had any problem at all power shifting and/or simply shifting quickly and I don't recall ever missing a gear...especially 2nd.

fourmz · 01-20-2011, 10:38 AM

I have the Barton shifter in mine and there is a night and day difference from the stock shifter. It is so much tighter and gives quick,positive shifts. Best $200 I have spent on the car.

01-20-2011, 12:24 AM	#20
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	I've driven other cars with the Tremec, and this setup is not as smooth as others. The current Camaro setup needs to change or use a different transmission. Because this one is just not as smooth as others. __________________

01-20-2011, 01:35 AM	#22
TaylorRyanSS COTW: 12/13/10 Drives: 1969 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 7,880	This is my first manual so I do not know any different, but the car seems easy to shift to me __________________ "Are you one of those boys who prefer cars to women? - I'm one of those boys that appreciates a fine body, regardless of the make." 1969 CAMARO JOURNAL: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341239 \| FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/taylor.ryan.apt \| GRAPHIC DESIGN: www.aptdesigns.net

01-20-2011, 08:19 AM	#25
PB3 Drives: 2010 CGM 2LT/RS/GFX/M6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,689	couple of folks here have said replacing the trany fluid with either RP or Mobile 1 have noticed a slight change in the feel. I plan on changing the trany and rear diff soon. I do agree though, I have missed second on a few occasions. __________________ "Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of alcohol" -W.C.Feilds

01-20-2011, 10:38 AM	#28
fourmz Fourmz Drives: 2010 2SS/RS 1968 Firebird 1994 Z28 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Soldotna,Alaska Posts: 382	I have the Barton shifter in mine and there is a night and day difference from the stock shifter. It is so much tighter and gives quick,positive shifts. Best $200 I have spent on the car. __________________ Black-in-Black/Blue out 2010 2SS/RS LS-3 -Magnacharger TVS2300,OD cog belt drive, 3.4" pulley, Janetty smooth idle blower cam,ID-850 injectors,ZL1 fuel pump,MSD boost a pump, ADM FPCM Janetty custom tune,Doug Thorley long tube headers, Corsa catback,C.A.I. Intake, Roto-Fab Big Gulp Scoop, Monster LT1/SC Clutch assembly,Eibach pro kit plus, BMR cradle/diff bushings, Barton Shifter,JRE 3.91 Eaton Tru-Trac rear diff,Barton Short Throw SHifter, Boss 339 20" wheels,Painted heritage grille, Sparks Restoration Inverted blue/black SS emblems, Seibon BB carbon fiber hood, ZL1 front bumper conversion.

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01-19-2011, 11:34 PM	#17
ex-SS-ve Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 763	Its all in the factory shifter its pretty much null and void at best! And being that its a remote style shifter doesnt help any.

01-19-2011, 11:42 PM	#18
phenixdragon Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 781	Feels just as smooth to me as the 4 or 5 other types of cars I have had with a stick. Only downside is the nob is so big but you can get a new nob or get use to it like I did.

01-20-2011, 12:31 AM	#21
midnighter Account Suspended Drives: nothing Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: a hole Posts: 17,906	I beg to differ

01-20-2011, 06:52 AM	#23
Alain Drives: 2016 Challenger Hellcat, 2018 ZL1LE Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 3,003	the trany is garbage, the clutch is garbage. good old american muscle car and you can't even rip through the gears..... it's a freaking disgrace. anyone who doesn't see this transmission sucks, you are in denial !!

01-20-2011, 08:09 AM	#24
mhood Orange Camaros Rule! Drives: 2010 1SS LS3 RS IOM Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,559	Would a Hurst ST help any?

01-20-2011, 09:33 AM	#26
Dan@showstopper Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 499	I've got an MGW and have never shifted a car faster in my life. I rarely miss any gears and if I do it's my fault. I don't understand everyone's contention.