|
View Poll Results: Who wants the HUD system available ASAP? | |||
Yes! GM, I want my HUD system available ASAP!! | 119 | 81.51% | |
No, I do not care the HUD. | 27 | 18.49% | |
Voters: 146. You may not vote on this poll |
|
Thread Tools |
10-16-2008, 01:54 PM | #29 | |
The punching cat
Drives: '10 Camaro SS Black W/Hugger&W/IOI Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 4,048
|
Quote:
|
|
10-16-2008, 02:33 PM | #30 |
i would like to have one but im still saving for my down payment if any of you guys would like to donate to me ill be happy to take some cash or how about some job offers so when i i can get my maro i can get a hud to ?
__________________
|
|
10-16-2008, 06:10 PM | #31 |
Account Suspended
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 3,746
|
|
10-16-2008, 06:13 PM | #32 |
Account Suspended
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 3,746
|
|
10-16-2008, 07:41 PM | #33 |
5TH GEN BURNOUTS!
|
|
10-16-2008, 08:18 PM | #34 | |
Quote:
Just figured if it cost beyond X amount that the cost would out weigh the cool factor. As much as I would love to say "Either put it in the 2010 Camaro, or I'm waiting till next year to buy" my current daily driven Camaro is getting up there in age and mileage, so it's time for a new car, HUD or not. However if GM pulls that rabbit out of their hat for the 2010, I will be a very happy camper. |
||
10-16-2008, 09:30 PM | #35 | |
Drives: '91 Z-28 Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 446
|
Quote:
But rather that guess and speculate I guess we'll just wait and see Last edited by swifttal; 10-16-2008 at 09:51 PM. |
|
10-18-2008, 02:54 PM | #36 |
The punching cat
Drives: '10 Camaro SS Black W/Hugger&W/IOI Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 4,048
|
|
10-18-2008, 04:02 PM | #37 | |||
Snark snark snark
Drives: RX350 Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: 3L Hell
Posts: 555
|
Quote:
This is an article from 1998 about the 1999 MY C5s. "Lastly, we have the Head-Up Display (HUD), clearly the most technically innovative new feature for next year. A Corvette HUD has been under development since the early C4 era. In 1985, in a move to gain technology transfer, GM bought Hughes Aircraft, a major defense contractor. One of the assignments Hughes got was adapting military aircraft HUD technology to GM's automotive products. Steven Stringfellow, a Hughes engineer with a background in aircraft instrument panels, lead the project and one of the first attempts at putting an economically-feasible, head-up display in a GM car was done on a Corvette. While this development version was well-received, the production, C4 structure behind the instrument panel would not accommodate a useful HUD. The idea was shelved for Corvette and rolled into the development of the GM10 program, which arrived in 1988 as the then-new, W-platform. Both the Pontiac Grand Prix and the Olds Cutlass had HUD's designed by Hughes and manufactured by AC Delco. In 1992, a "Gen2" HUD debuted in the Pontiac Bonneville. By 1993, Stringfellow was working directly for GM in an advanced electrical design group. A Chevrolet marketing executive, Dr. Fred Gallasch, approached Dave Hill with information supporting Chevrolet's position that customers wanted an HUD in the car. The case for a HUD was further reinforced when the digital vs. analog speedo debate (another one of those differences of opinion and frank exchanges of views, perhaps?) at the Corvette Launch Center resulted in an almost 50/50 split the cluster went analog and the HUD would provide digital speed. It was put on the list for the 1999 model year (MY99) and Stringfellow was brought into the C5 development group to work, initially, on the Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) and the Driver Information Center (DIC) for MY97 and subsequently on the HUD. C5's Head-Up Display is the fourth generation GM HUD. It is brighter and can display more information than previous versions. The unit was designed by Stringfellow's group and Nippon Seki, the manufacturer of the car's IPC, was awarded the manufacturing contract after ACDelco's bid was rejected due to high cost. The hardware resides in a small well ahead of the instrument panel and projects its image, via a vacuum fluorescent display, on the inside of the windshield. The HUD is positioned such that the display reflects off the front glass and into the driver's field of view. It appears to hang in space just below the driver's line of sight. Its basics are: digital speed, graphic RPM display, a choice of 3 gages, turn signals, high beams, a check gages warning and a shift light. The unit can be formatted, by holding down the page button, to show:
You can judge the HUD two ways, as a convenience option and as a performance driving aid. For convenience, it's easy to get used to the HUD as a constant driving "assistant". There it is, seeming to floating out there about 100 feet in front of the car. You never need to look down at the IPC to see your speed, rpm or to check if your blinkers are on. All you do is drop your line of sight a tiny bit and you see that bluish display. One thing we like about the HUD is, while a lot of data is available, only the basics are default-displayed, the rest is user-selectable. We, also, like the controllability of the HUD. The user can set the display's format, position within a moderate range and the brightness, all with controls that are easy to reach. They are located on the left of the IPC trim where, since 1997, there was a styled plug. If the C5's HUD has a weakness, it is the shift light feature. At the media program at Indianapolis, after introducing the '99 Hardtop, Chief Engineer Hill discussed the HUD. He emphasized the shift light feature as a performance driving aid, similar in nature to shift lights used in road race or drag race cars. My evaluation later that day, in a performance driving situation of the type deemed by Hill as ideal for the HUD shift light, found the feature lacked visibility. I tested the light in the default choice of HUD data by accelerating in second gear. I intended to upshift when we saw the light in my peripheral vision, however, I never saw it and the LS1 hit the rev limiter. I tried again, looking directly at the HUD as the engine neared redline. This time I saw the light, but couldn't find it until too long after it came on and the motor tagged the fuel cut-off, again. The light is so small, it seems to get lost amongst the other data. I found out later, in emailing with Stringfellow, that the HUD can be set to show the shift light without the graphic tach display and he says it stands out more when not nestled up against the tach bars, however, in my opinion; it still needs to be a contrasting color or at least made several measures brighter than the surrounding parts of the display." That's the 4th Gen HUD. This is a video of the 5th Gen. I'm of the believe that the reason the car won't be getting the HUD at all until MY 2011 is because the 6th Gen HUD is still in development and GM doesn't want to waste the money tooling the cars for the 5th Gen when they know they'll have to switch mid generation. Retooling after only 2 model years is just ridiculous (even though Audi seems to be okay with it). Quote:
__________________
What is this, CorvetteForum Lite?
|
|||
10-18-2008, 04:08 PM | #38 |
Moderator
|
I don't care how long it takes. I'm not used to the HUD. People who are used to the HUD get dependent usually. GM has put so much work into making a pretty dash that I'd rather look at my classy gauges than a projected data screen. Besides, it takes away the stripped out appeal of my 1SS.
__________________
RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet//
Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban |
10-18-2008, 04:48 PM | #39 |
Pillaging Viking
|
I want the HUD yes, but I want a V8 more. If I have the money and we get word that the V8 is going to be gone soon, I'll be getting an SS ASAP!
__________________
"Fifty years from now, when you're looking back at your life, don't you want to be able to say you had the guts to get in the car?"
|
10-18-2008, 05:09 PM | #40 | |
The punching cat
Drives: '10 Camaro SS Black W/Hugger&W/IOI Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 4,048
|
here is a a little old video about the HUD and how it looks and works in C5 corvette.
I think the car would just be better with it, then without it... |
|
10-18-2008, 05:39 PM | #41 |
Drives: '91 Z-28 Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 446
|
Quote:
Nice post! This is kinda swaying me to wait for the HUD. My wife had one in her 99 Grand Prix, and I dug it very much... didn't look at the gauges ever except to check gas. |
10-18-2008, 06:29 PM | #42 |
Drives: 71 Hemi Cuda Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Laguna Niguel
Posts: 20
|
That just makes me so mad about GM. People say well they have to develop it so it'll work.....THEY"VE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO DEVELOP A HUD FOR THE CAMARO especially when they already have it in the Corvette. It just makes me mad because we've been waiting for this car for so long, and now they aren't going to put in something that they originally planned on. But, im still getting the Camaro next year, screw waiting another 2 years. I've waited long enough.
|
|
|
|
|