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PwrAdikt · 08-17-2015, 06:27 PM

Im up around the 1000rwhp mark with twins. "Plan in 1300 with race gas" I've got a built tranny and rear but my ram clutch isnt gonna hold up. Thinking of either running a rps triple carbon or swapping to the 4l80. Car is street mostly. No roadcourse or anything. Just slow rolls and digs. I feel it will be faster with the auto but idk. I dont know much about the gearing on the 80 and how turbo's will do with it on the street "this is my first turbo car". Anyone made the swap or wish they didnt??

ttshovel · 08-17-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PwrAdikt

Im up around the 1000rwhp mark with twins. "Plan in 1300 with race gas" I've got a built tranny and rear but my ram clutch isnt gonna hold up. Thinking of either running a rps triple carbon or swapping to the 4l80. Car is street mostly. No roadcourse or anything. Just slow rolls and digs. I feel it will be faster with the auto but idk. I dont know much about the gearing on the 80 and how turbo's will do with it on the street "this is my first turbo car". Anyone made the swap or wish they didnt??

I made the swap, but I'm a blower car.. hands down the best decision I've made! Car drives so well and the peace of mind knowing I won't hurt this trans for a while is great. The trans gearing of the 4L80 will help you spool down low. The lower gear ratio will put more load on the motor.

Just my 2 cents

Joe@CPR.com · 08-17-2015, 08:22 PM

Turbo's and auto's go together like mommies and babies!!!!! Seriously do the 4l80 swap it'll be so much faster

Done a few Gen v's with it and they all are hooked. Need any tech advice on doing it or parts let me know

onebad1le · 08-17-2015, 08:27 PM

The fastest Camaro is single turbo and 6 speed
http://youtu.be/AXDMXvpbJMQ

BullF-16 · 08-17-2015, 08:35 PM

1281 whp here with twins. Will be M6 forever. No interest in straight line for 8-9 seconds with the tranny running the show. No interest in times at all.

Built this car to relax and have fun, i have plenty of other competitive hobbies, dont want another. YMMV

Just a fun street car that does a little bit of everything real well but built more for the road course than anything else.

Its just me, but going to 150-170 in a straight line is ho hum. Maybe my other hot rod ruined it for me.

Lateral G's are a rush

bct10985 · 08-17-2015, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by onebad1le

The fastest Camaro is single turbo and 6 speed
http://youtu.be/AXDMXvpbJMQ

That isnt a 4000lb IRS 5th gen either. Trying to get it to hook on the street from a dig is very difficult and getting beat by N/A 5.0 coyotes with slicks and only half the power is embarassing. Ask me how i know

bayarea408 · 08-17-2015, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by onebad1le

The fastest Camaro is single turbo and 6 speed
http://youtu.be/AXDMXvpbJMQ

Thats the Fasest "6 speed manual camaro".

The fastest "Camaro" is ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT faster then a mid high 8 second pass....

Drag racing / trying to really use the power - 4l80E

Having fun with a clutch / road course auto cross - 6 speed manual

climb-101 · 08-17-2015, 10:22 PM

I'm building a similer set up power wise with twins. for my build I'm out the independent rear and in with straight axle (9" ford) and doing a th-400 trans with a break in it. the th-400 trans are bullet proof and with the brake in them you still shift them but there is no clutch.

Jchaluja · 08-18-2015, 10:24 AM

I have twins and a 4L80 and it works fantastic, it depends on your goals, for ET I strongly suggest 4L80, my car is street driven and I track as well, I ride 70 mph @2k rpm, it rides very nice!!!

BradySS · 08-18-2015, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by onebad1le

The fastest Camaro is single turbo and 6 speed
http://youtu.be/AXDMXvpbJMQ

I hope you're just trying to be funny.

Unreal · 08-18-2015, 12:44 PM

Auto will be faster, more consistent and more reliable. If those are important to you, go for it.

Trob85 · 08-18-2015, 08:19 PM

Yea if you're doing digs and straight line racing auto is the way to go. I would also look into a turbo 400 just a suggestion.

smokum · 08-18-2015, 09:48 PM

Anything north of 1000rwhp the only way to go in a straight line is turbo 400 with a gear vendors. I have had this combo in other cars and it is the only way to go. It costs some coin to do it right but is practically bulletproof. I will be going back to this again in my next build. But not in a camaro.

climb-101 · 08-19-2015, 12:07 AM

th-400, reverse pattern valve body, cheetah shifter, and decent converter is a bullet proof setup. ran that setup in my chevelle for 9 years making around 750 hp, both on the street and strip, it was even a daily driver for a year and ever once had an issue.

08-17-2015, 06:27 PM	#1
PwrAdikt Drives: 2005 silverado ss 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 351	Big hp turbo cars, manual or 4l80 and why Im up around the 1000rwhp mark with twins. "Plan in 1300 with race gas" I've got a built tranny and rear but my ram clutch isnt gonna hold up. Thinking of either running a rps triple carbon or swapping to the 4l80. Car is street mostly. No roadcourse or anything. Just slow rolls and digs. I feel it will be faster with the auto but idk. I dont know much about the gearing on the 80 and how turbo's will do with it on the street "this is my first turbo car". Anyone made the swap or wish they didnt??

08-17-2015, 08:35 PM	#5
BullF-16 USAF retired! Thank God! Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,799	1281 whp here with twins. Will be M6 forever. No interest in straight line for 8-9 seconds with the tranny running the show. No interest in times at all. Built this car to relax and have fun, i have plenty of other competitive hobbies, dont want another. YMMV Just a fun street car that does a little bit of everything real well but built more for the road course than anything else. Its just me, but going to 150-170 in a straight line is ho hum. Maybe my other hot rod ruined it for me. Lateral G's are a rush __________________ HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads

08-18-2015, 12:44 PM	#11
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Auto will be faster, more consistent and more reliable. If those are important to you, go for it. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

08-18-2015, 08:19 PM	#12
Trob85 Svt lol Drives: 2011 ss inferno orange blown Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Topeka Posts: 2,312	Yea if you're doing digs and straight line racing auto is the way to go. I would also look into a turbo 400 just a suggestion. __________________ plasti dip is not a mod.......and a cold air intake doesn't make you fast!

08-17-2015, 08:22 PM	#3
Joe@CPR.com Account Suspended Drives: 03 vette, 94 trans am, 04 gto Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 995	Turbo's and auto's go together like mommies and babies!!!!! Seriously do the 4l80 swap it'll be so much faster Done a few Gen v's with it and they all are hooked. Need any tech advice on doing it or parts let me know

08-17-2015, 08:27 PM	#4
onebad1le Account Suspended Drives: 2013 1le Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: houston Posts: 459	The fastest Camaro is single turbo and 6 speed http://youtu.be/AXDMXvpbJMQ

08-17-2015, 10:22 PM	#8
climb-101 Drives: 2010 2ss Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: montana Posts: 76	I'm building a similer set up power wise with twins. for my build I'm out the independent rear and in with straight axle (9" ford) and doing a th-400 trans with a break in it. the th-400 trans are bullet proof and with the brake in them you still shift them but there is no clutch.

08-18-2015, 10:24 AM	#9
Jchaluja Drives: ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,321	I have twins and a 4L80 and it works fantastic, it depends on your goals, for ET I strongly suggest 4L80, my car is street driven and I track as well, I ride 70 mph @2k rpm, it rides very nice!!!

08-18-2015, 09:48 PM	#13
smokum Drives: 2010 2ssrs Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 827 View My Garage	Anything north of 1000rwhp the only way to go in a straight line is turbo 400 with a gear vendors. I have had this combo in other cars and it is the only way to go. It costs some coin to do it right but is practically bulletproof. I will be going back to this again in my next build. But not in a camaro.

08-19-2015, 12:07 AM	#14
climb-101 Drives: 2010 2ss Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: montana Posts: 76	th-400, reverse pattern valve body, cheetah shifter, and decent converter is a bullet proof setup. ran that setup in my chevelle for 9 years making around 750 hp, both on the street and strip, it was even a daily driver for a year and ever once had an issue.