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perfucto · 06-28-2018, 11:55 AM

I have a 2013 ZL1 with Gforce Outlaw axles. I am using Pfadt adjustable heavy duty sway bars front and rear. Due to the larger axles the rear sway bar is rubbing on each axle. I have found pictures with the same problem using DSS axles.
When I contacted Pfadt they said "I spoke to the engineers and since the vehicle has been modified we don’t have a solution for this issue.
The sway bar was made for the stock axles. We don’t want to recommend any modification that we have not tried in any of our vehicles".
Some have said to space the sway bar out about 3/4 of an inch other say not to.
Anyone experience this same problem, if so, what was the solution?

perfucto · 07-05-2018, 09:16 AM

Contacted Ted Jannetty and he came up with this solution. Thanks Ted for a solution many others couldn't come up with.
Took it to Jared Goodman at Hold Fast Metal Worx, Naples, Fl. did a great job.

Matt8892(2) · 07-05-2018, 03:31 PM

That’s interesting. But hey, whatever works

silversleeper · 07-05-2018, 05:00 PM

Doesn't look like it needs much strength on the end. 5min with a grinder to clearance off about 1/8" on that edge. Or cut and reweld...

SSTAT · 07-05-2018, 10:18 PM

I had a similar problem on my 4th gen race car except it was to make room for brake cooling ducts. Not sure if it would work here but it looks like there is plenty of threaded rod, just add a half inch to an inch of washers below the bushing under the sway bar and move the entire sway bar ends up (toward you in the pics above I think). It will change the geometry a bit, might make the swaybar act a little stiffer but not enough to notice. Ive never actually looked at the swaybar set up on my 5th gen so I dont know if this is possible at all or not, but thought Id mention it.

DrkPhx · 07-06-2018, 08:39 AM

I have the same rear sway bar and had to remove it to install some rear suspension parts last year. Put it back on and went about my business. Happened to check it later and noticed the adjustable end was hitting the rear CV boot (stock axles). It must have gotten tweaked when I installed it because it never did that before. Anyway, I had to loosen the sway bar bushing brackets to rotate the bar out of the way for normal clearance and all is good.

06-28-2018, 11:55 AM	#1
perfucto Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Estero, FL Posts: 383	Gforce Outlaw Axles with Pfadt Sway Bar Issue I have a 2013 ZL1 with Gforce Outlaw axles. I am using Pfadt adjustable heavy duty sway bars front and rear. Due to the larger axles the rear sway bar is rubbing on each axle. I have found pictures with the same problem using DSS axles. When I contacted Pfadt they said "I spoke to the engineers and since the vehicle has been modified we don’t have a solution for this issue. The sway bar was made for the stock axles. We don’t want to recommend any modification that we have not tried in any of our vehicles". Some have said to space the sway bar out about 3/4 of an inch other say not to. Anyone experience this same problem, if so, what was the solution? Attached Images

07-05-2018, 09:16 AM	#2
perfucto Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Estero, FL Posts: 383	Solution: Contacted Ted Jannetty and he came up with this solution. Thanks Ted for a solution many others couldn't come up with. Took it to Jared Goodman at Hold Fast Metal Worx, Naples, Fl. did a great job. Attached Images

07-05-2018, 03:31 PM	#3
Matt8892(2) Drives: Black camaro 2ss 45th Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Central NJ Posts: 359	That’s interesting. But hey, whatever works

07-05-2018, 05:00 PM	#4
silversleeper Big Crow Drives: '13 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: California Posts: 1,485	Doesn't look like it needs much strength on the end. 5min with a grinder to clearance off about 1/8" on that edge. Or cut and reweld...

07-05-2018, 10:18 PM	#5
SSTAT Drives: 2012 ZL1, 1997SS NASA Road Racer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zanesville, Oh Posts: 96	I had a similar problem on my 4th gen race car except it was to make room for brake cooling ducts. Not sure if it would work here but it looks like there is plenty of threaded rod, just add a half inch to an inch of washers below the bushing under the sway bar and move the entire sway bar ends up (toward you in the pics above I think). It will change the geometry a bit, might make the swaybar act a little stiffer but not enough to notice. Ive never actually looked at the swaybar set up on my 5th gen so I dont know if this is possible at all or not, but thought Id mention it.

07-06-2018, 08:39 AM	#6
DrkPhx Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 / 2006 TB SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MN Posts: 2,250	I have the same rear sway bar and had to remove it to install some rear suspension parts last year. Put it back on and went about my business. Happened to check it later and noticed the adjustable end was hitting the rear CV boot (stock axles). It must have gotten tweaked when I installed it because it never did that before. Anyway, I had to loosen the sway bar bushing brackets to rotate the bar out of the way for normal clearance and all is good.