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ZL1 comes out on top!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/revi...BBnb4R5#page=2

We tested a manual Hellcat back in 2015 and made a disappointing discovery: The automatic car would put it on the trailer. The manual ran from zero to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds, trailing the automatic by three-tenths. Its quarter-mile performance of 11.9 seconds at 124 mph was 0.2 second and 2 mph slower. “If bragging rights are important (and how are they not with this car?),” we wrote, “the automatic is the one to have.”

That’s still true with the Widebody.

Getting all it can from its rear 20-inch Pirelli P Zero tires, the Challenger Hellcat Widebody automatic hits 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and storms through the quarter in 11.8 seconds at 126 mph. With the manual, however, it’s a 4.0-second run to 60 mph and a 12.4-second quarter-mile at 120 mph. That disappointing performance trails that of the much lighter but less powerful Chevy Camaro ZL1 manual and the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350R. That makes the Shelby, in particular, a bit of a giant killer, since it has the only naturally aspirated V-8 of the bunch and it’s down more than 180 horsepower to the Dodge.

The Hellcat’s portly 4538 pounds is partly to blame here-with the Widebody coming in 69 pounds heavier than the already hefty standard model-but it’s really the tall gearing of the six-speed manual that slows this beast. With a 2.26:1 first, 1.58:1 second, and 1.19:1 third-gear ratio, the Tremec TR-6060 is just no match for the 4.71:1 first, 3.14:1 second, and 2.10:1 third of the optional ZF-supplied 8HP90 eight-speed automatic. And the six-speed’s 3.70:1 rear-axle gear, up from the automatic’s 2.62:1 ratio, just isn’t enough to make up the difference.

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I would like to own both. Challenger for daily driver word

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These guys will lose all their cred if I (of all people) go to a track and do better than a 12.4 in my M6 Hellcat. And despite the time it ran, look at that MPH.

Regardless tho, the ZL1 is the fastest thing stock for stock under the price and performance of the Z06. And the 6th Gen ZR1 is faster than the C7 Z06. And the Z7 ZR1 is faster than that. So really, if you wanna beat a Chevy, you need...another Chevy!!

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

ZL1 comes out on top!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/revi...BBnb4R5#page=2

We tested a manual Hellcat back in 2015 and made a disappointing discovery: The automatic car would put it on the trailer. The manual ran from zero to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds, trailing the automatic by three-tenths. Its quarter-mile performance of 11.9 seconds at 124 mph was 0.2 second and 2 mph slower. “If bragging rights are important (and how are they not with this car?),” we wrote, “the automatic is the one to have.”

That’s still true with the Widebody.

Getting all it can from its rear 20-inch Pirelli P Zero tires, the Challenger Hellcat Widebody automatic hits 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and storms through the quarter in 11.8 seconds at 126 mph. With the manual, however, it’s a 4.0-second run to 60 mph and a 12.4-second quarter-mile at 120 mph. That disappointing performance trails that of the much lighter but less powerful Chevy Camaro ZL1 manual and the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350R. That makes the Shelby, in particular, a bit of a giant killer, since it has the only naturally aspirated V-8 of the bunch and it’s down more than 180 horsepower to the Dodge.

The Hellcat’s portly 4538 pounds is partly to blame here-with the Widebody coming in 69 pounds heavier than the already hefty standard model-but it’s really the tall gearing of the six-speed manual that slows this beast. With a 2.26:1 first, 1.58:1 second, and 1.19:1 third-gear ratio, the Tremec TR-6060 is just no match for the 4.71:1 first, 3.14:1 second, and 2.10:1 third of the optional ZF-supplied 8HP90 eight-speed automatic. And the six-speed’s 3.70:1 rear-axle gear, up from the automatic’s 2.62:1 ratio, just isn’t enough to make up the difference.

The GT350R is 900 lbs lighter than the hellcat, those cars typically run 12.4 12.3 which is neck and neck with a hellcat. I wouldnt call a Gt350R a slayer of the hellcat on the street or the 1/4 mile track. Being that car is a NA track weapon, its only competition and comparable car is a SS1LE