03-17-2014, 06:25 PM | #15 |
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Won't work with the standard CAI though. Only the New Era Race CAI.
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03-17-2014, 06:26 PM | #16 | |
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Seems like the best way to go about this is to simply swap the blower. I just don't understand why the blower is so expensive. Usually a supercharger kit for a N/A car is about 5-6 grand, and that includes lines, piping, HX, everything. Why does a simple blower replacement cost just as much as an entire supercharger kit?? |
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03-17-2014, 06:32 PM | #17 |
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I wish I would have taken pics of the reservoir I threw away. Part of the problem was the way the coolant lines were routed but I don't think anyone thought about this stuff much until I really started pushing my car. If you route the line directly out of the supercharger (where it is possible to convert the coolant to steam) and then stuff it into the bottom of a plastic reservoir.... Once you get enough steam heat and pressure the reservoir puffs like a perfect balloon and then the filler neck melts in grooves to vent the steam..... I would recommend if you do any road racing, to put your reservoir after the heat exchanger in the grill where it will take cooler water instead of steam.....and then plumb it to the intake....and then if you decide to ice.... your ice water goes into the supercharger instead of the heat exchanger in the grill....as many standard systems do.
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03-17-2014, 06:49 PM | #19 | |
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Here is my reservoir, it holds over 3 gallons in the trunk and sits right behind the battery.
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03-17-2014, 07:06 PM | #20 |
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I want to hear more about this new Heartbeat blower. I'm anxiously waiting more results from people that are utilizing it. If it does really well at fighting off heat soak and can pound out 14 pounds of boost without even remotely breaking a sweat, It would be worth it to me. Think about it this way, with the deals on ZL1's right now, you can get a brand new ZL1, upgrade the blower to the heartbeat unit, and STILL spend thousands less than the GT500. You'd still have money left over for intake, long tubes, tune etc and even then, still not be in for as much as the Shelby. Not because the Shelby is so enormously expensive, it just has a famous dead guys name on it. Dealers aren't going much below MSRP AT ALL, which is already more then the ZL1.
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03-17-2014, 08:29 PM | #21 | |
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03-17-2014, 09:03 PM | #22 |
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I posted this before in the superchiller thread here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=196968&page=5
why not use an electric A/C compressor so it can run at all times like the toyota prius uses |
03-18-2014, 01:01 AM | #23 |
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I had one of Dave's 1st prototype SuperChiller from Tracy@RX on my 10 SS & had no issues with it cause it is the original one that no AC line cutting needed, Boost was 11psi & drops to 6psi while tunning it on the Dyno & realiesed it was due to heat soak so we added the SuperChiller & never had any issue with heat soak .
On my 12 ZL1 we added the SuperChiller from Tracy@RX & had LMR do the installation, it worked fine at 1st but started giving headach leaking & had to go through 3 AC compressurs due to that & now i am getting the Original one from Dave soon & i am sure that it will work flowlessly like the 1st one. Ahmad
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03-18-2014, 08:31 AM | #24 |
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Agree with Jessrayo - if superchiller isnt a route you want to pursue, the limiting factor is the intercooler within the supercharger. Much smaller than LS9 (twin brick) or GT500. The new heartbeat looks like it could be a good solution.
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03-18-2014, 10:25 AM | #25 |
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can the intercooler be swapped out for the heartbeat one? or does the whole Supercharger need to be replaced?.
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03-18-2014, 11:15 AM | #26 |
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You have to do the whole supercharger.
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03-18-2014, 03:41 PM | #27 |
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how come noone has come up with another lid and brick design for the ZL1? Is the market just not big enough or is it just cheaper to replace the whole blower rather than the bottleneck of the TV1900?
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03-18-2014, 04:06 PM | #28 |
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