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eLeSthree · 03-02-2021, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver2014SS

Appreciate any and all feedback. Maybe I misread what I thought was 1k hp Camaros with ZL1 + aux. I've been doing so much searching and reading my brain is a bit fried.

It all depends. Turbo cars with big injectors and a E50 could get there.

SC with small injectors and E80 would probably start seeing pressure drop around 850whp ish. It worked great for me until the 830ish area, but I ran straight E. If you run 93 and meth it may support 1000whp.

I think the problem that companies face with providing a "Drop in" solution is:

1. Power. The stock wiring is not going to support the draw of 2 or 3 small pumps. This means you'll have to run a relay for each pump with a nice heavy gauge wire and find triggers.

2. Feed/return lines. The stock feed is too small and there is no return.

DSX has been working on a solution. I'm running their triple pump basket at the moment and its providing rock steady fuel pressure at 1000whp+ on E78 with 1300cc injectors. I believe he is working on making a controller for the pump basket, before it is released to market.

gunchamp · 03-02-2021, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

It all depends. Turbo cars with big injectors and a E50 could get there.

SC with small injectors and E80 would probably start seeing pressure drop around 850whp ish. It worked great for me until the 830ish area, but I ran straight E. If you run 93 and meth it may support 1000whp.

I think the problem that companies face with providing a "Drop in" solution is:

1. Power. The stock wiring is not going to support the draw of 2 or 3 small pumps. This means you'll have to run a relay for each pump with a nice heavy gauge wire and find triggers.

2. Feed/return lines. The stock feed is too small and there is no return.

DSX has been working on a solution. I'm running their triple pump basket at the moment and its providing rock steady fuel pressure at 1000whp+ on E78 with 1300cc injectors. I believe he is working on making a controller for the pump basket, before it is released to market.

Anymore info on the 3 pump dsx setup? I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a fuel system, but can wait for something better and possibly cheaper

larry_g · 03-02-2021, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Anymore info on the 3 pump dsx setup? I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a fuel system, but can wait for something better and possibly cheaper

Same here, not sure how much longer I'm going to wait though.

eLeSthree · 03-02-2021, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Anymore info on the 3 pump dsx setup? I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a fuel system, but can wait for something better and possibly cheaper

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Originally Posted by larry_g

Same here, not sure how much longer I'm going to wait though.

I have not tested the controller yet, but he has others running this pump basket. Maybe he’s working with them?? I’d just email dave at dsx tuning if you’re interested.

RupertPupkin · 03-02-2021, 09:31 PM

Isn’t the DSX triple pump been in development since September-ish...

eLeSthree · 03-03-2021, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RupertPupkin

Isn’t the DSX triple pump been in development since September-ish...

we are a dying breed... at least 6 years old now... Low priority??

I'll tell him, we want it now, we want it easy, and we want it cheap. I'm sure he'll jump right on it.

RupertPupkin · 03-03-2021, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eLeSthree

we are a dying breed... at least 6 years old now... Low priority??

I'll tell him, we want it now, we want it easy, and we want it cheap. I'm sure he'll jump right on it.

Hell yeah!! Cheap!! Like eBay questionable, will it work cheap??!!! Lol

TheFlyingBananaSS · 03-03-2021, 07:18 AM

I held out as long as I could. Had to make a move to be ready for this season on time.

gunchamp · 03-03-2021, 11:17 AM

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I held out as long as I could. Had to make a move to be ready for this season on time.

I'm still holding out lol

Greenhornet2 · 03-08-2021, 01:29 PM

I think DSX claims they can support 1k WHP with a ZL1 pump. From what I have read from others, they don't seem to be able to be steady at around 850whp. Talk to Ted Jannetty. I am safe to around 750whp, I have no FP drop as of now. DSX kit would be the next step up, but I would probably just go with a dual or triple setup if I were going to surpass my fuel system capacity I have now.

Tool131 · 04-07-2021, 01:05 PM

I'm currently running stock pump with DSX Aux. system. E85, at 702 WHP so ZL1 pump with DSX should safely push HP to at least 800

Silver2014SS · 04-08-2021, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tool131

I'm currently running stock pump with DSX Aux. system. E85, at 702 WHP so ZL1 pump with DSX should safely push HP to at least 800

I appreciate everyone's input - but this is exactly the info I'm looking for. Thank you

CamaroCracka · 04-09-2021, 08:47 AM

I have the ZL1 pump with a Kenne Bell BAP and the ADM FPCM (which you can now just tune the stock one with HP Tuners. The BAP is turned on at seven pounds by a Hobbs switch. Plenty of fuel at 712hp on 93.

I don't don't think I could bring myself to pay $1000 for an external fuel pump, nitrous fuel tap and AN lines and fittings. Oh, and a MAP based controller controller of course. I also could not bring myself to cut a hole in my floorboard, when I put the ZL1 pump in, but that is just me. I dropped the cradle and installed poly cradle bushings while it was down.

If I were starting from stock again, I would just drop in a nice dual or triple for the price of an aux pump kit and not drill a hole in my fuel tank. My2cents.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 04-09-2021, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

I have the ZL1 pump with a Kenne Bell BAP and the ADM FPCM (which you can now just tune the stock one with HP Tuners. The BAP is turned on at seven pounds by a Hobbs switch. Plenty of fuel at 712hp on 93.

I don't don't think I could bring myself to pay $1000 for an external fuel pump, nitrous fuel tap and AN lines and fittings. Oh, and a MAP based controller controller of course. I also could not bring myself to cut a hole in my floorboard, when I put the ZL1 pump in, but that is just me. I dropped the cradle and installed poly cradle bushings while it was down.

If I were starting from stock again, I would just drop in a nice dual or triple for the price of an aux pump kit and not drill a hole in my fuel tank. My2cents.

Your not getting a dual or triple drop in complete with lines and fittings for $1000.

03-02-2021, 09:31 PM	#19
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,597	Isn’t the DSX triple pump been in development since September-ish... __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

03-03-2021, 07:18 AM	#22
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	I held out as long as I could. Had to make a move to be ready for this season on time. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

03-08-2021, 01:29 PM	#24
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	I think DSX claims they can support 1k WHP with a ZL1 pump. From what I have read from others, they don't seem to be able to be steady at around 850whp. Talk to Ted Jannetty. I am safe to around 750whp, I have no FP drop as of now. DSX kit would be the next step up, but I would probably just go with a dual or triple setup if I were going to surpass my fuel system capacity I have now. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

04-07-2021, 01:05 PM	#25
Tool131 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS2 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Bettendorf iowa Posts: 26	I'm currently running stock pump with DSX Aux. system. E85, at 702 WHP so ZL1 pump with DSX should safely push HP to at least 800 __________________ 2010 2SS M6, Procharger, 8 rib, 12lbs, E85, Holley intake W/ fuel rails, TSP Blower cam 229/242 w/springs, Harden pushrod, FIC injectors, DSX Aux. fuel, Kooks long tube headers, xpipe, no cats, Mcleod twin disc, G Force Axles, DSS aluminum drive shaft, Detroit Trutrac, LPW dif cover w/BMR bushings, BMR Toe rods and Trailing arms, 5 Stars, M.T. E/T Streets, Hurst short throw, Mighty Mouse catch can, 702 WHP on Mustang Dyno 10.7 1/4 Mile

04-09-2021, 08:47 AM	#27
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,735	I have the ZL1 pump with a Kenne Bell BAP and the ADM FPCM (which you can now just tune the stock one with HP Tuners. The BAP is turned on at seven pounds by a Hobbs switch. Plenty of fuel at 712hp on 93. I don't don't think I could bring myself to pay $1000 for an external fuel pump, nitrous fuel tap and AN lines and fittings. Oh, and a MAP based controller controller of course. I also could not bring myself to cut a hole in my floorboard, when I put the ZL1 pump in, but that is just me. I dropped the cradle and installed poly cradle bushings while it was down. If I were starting from stock again, I would just drop in a nice dual or triple for the price of an aux pump kit and not drill a hole in my fuel tank. My2cents. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.