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Old 09-09-2018, 08:58 AM   #1
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Is there a reason NOT to use a 1LE catch can?

Iíve been looking all over this forum at catch cans. It seems that the factory 1LEis the cleanest looking installation. Is there a reason to go with something after market instead of the 1LE? Iím leaning towards the 1LE, but with all these aftermarket options out there, Iím guessing there must be a downside?
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:51 AM   #2
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Iíve been looking all over this forum at catch cans. It seems that the factory 1LEis the cleanest looking installation. Is there a reason to go with something after market instead of the 1LE? Iím leaning towards the 1LE, but with all these aftermarket options out there, Iím guessing there must be a downside?
Not that I know of other than its not too pretty looking sitting on the valve cover, nice thing about it is that it is self draining! I have one on my 1LE and it works great.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:57 AM   #3
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I believe what your referring too would be the clean side separator not a true catch can, and its for storing temporarily with WOT runs oil that does filter back down after coming off the pedal...… for a real set up see Elite engineering .

See the red canister on the left that looks so Unclean install...LOL that's a catch can.


You really want to see things cleaned up read the sticky "cleaning up the engine bay" from Moreno Motorsports.... up above on the engine section.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:00 AM   #4
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The 1LE catch can is for the clean side of the PCV system, are you wanting the clean or dirty side catch can. There is a difference. Just checking. The 1LE catch can is a very clean and factory looking unit, it does it’s job well.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:52 PM   #5
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That’s a good question. I’m using the car for road racing. If that is what GM used on the 1LE is it good enough? Maybe I do need both?
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Our billet cleanside separator is far more effective than the empty plastic GM unit with a separate coalescing chamber and can be used year round.


Cheaper than the GM unit as well:


Replaces the stock oil fill cap and you simply cap the factory barb on the inner front of the passenger side valve cover. run hose from the main intake tube to the CSS.


http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/c...oil-separator/
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Both is the best approach IMO. I have the 1LE, and an Elite. Many track days, on a '15 1LE SS they seem to do their job. A few table spoons of oil in the can after a track day.
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Our billet cleanside separator is far more effective than the empty plastic GM unit with a separate coalescing chamber and can be used year round.


Cheaper than the GM unit as well:


Replaces the stock oil fill cap and you simply cap the factory barb on the inner front of the passenger side valve cover. run hose from the main intake tube to the CSS.


http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/c...oil-separator/
Can you please tell us the advantages of one or the other, meaning the clean side separator and the other type.
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The GM CSS is an empty plastic piece that traps by condensation, and the Elite is a billet piece made of 6061 T6 Aluminum with an internal coalescing chamber filled with stainless steel coalescing media that does a far better job of separating and preventing oil ingestion through the fresh/clean side of the PCV system. This is only responsible for app 5-15% of the total ingestion so you should run a proper foul/dirty side can to benefit.



Our E2 and E2-X dual valves will provide 90-95% effectiveness as well as full time evacuation suction VS part time for the stock system.



Most catchcans, no matter the brand name are only 15-30% effective in comparison.


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So, need to run two then. Thank you for the explanation.
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The GM CSS is an empty plastic piece that traps by condensation, and the Elite is a billet piece made of 6061 T6 Aluminum with an internal coalescing chamber filled with stainless steel coalescing media that does a far better job of separating and preventing oil ingestion through the fresh/clean side of the PCV system. This is only responsible for app 5-15% of the total ingestion so you should run a proper foul/dirty side can to benefit.



Our E2 and E2-X dual valves will provide 90-95% effectiveness as well as full time evacuation suction VS part time for the stock system.



Most catchcans, no matter the brand name are only 15-30% effective in comparison.


Could you explain where to place the clean-side bung on an intake? It looks like some intakes have the bung in the middle of the intake tube (stock ish location) while others put it in the silicone coupler that attaches the tube to the throttle body.
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Could you explain where to place the clean-side bung on an intake? It looks like some intakes have the bung in the middle of the intake tube (stock ish location) while others put it in the silicone coupler that attaches the tube to the throttle body.



As long as it is post MAF so the MAF sensor meters the incoming air, unless it is a turbo or centri blower.
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