Should i get a better tune? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Galonso$* · 12-04-2017, 01:42 AM

Long post here incoming. I honestly feel like i should be pushing more power then i should now. Right now I’m pushing a max of 416 HP and 394 TQ and that’s with Headers with high flow cats,, stage 2 cam and the tune i got with the cam. Is this normal average numbers for an auto SS for what mods i have? Also I’ll prob get another tune from a shop 4 hours away that a buddy got his tune at and can add more power then i do now for $600 from what my buddy has told me. Is that $600 tune worth it? I’ve seen on here that most actual good dyno tunes are $400 to $600.

CamaroDreams76 · 12-04-2017, 05:24 AM

Need to go to the track and see how it runs before you decide.

A guy I work with used to have a tuned 2010 SS auto with a TSP full exhaust and intake and it would walk my car.....didn't matter if it was a dig, 20 roll, 40 roll ect.... I'd lose. His car made 385, mine made 416 at that time. My car had a PTB and intake.

christianchevell · 12-04-2017, 06:58 AM

Your going stage 2 instead of four....well that's left you where you are, a tune will gain maybe a good dyno a few HP if the old one is screwed up......Don't look for miracles throwing money around it has to be in the right place, now if you had stage four and were that low...yes the tune maybe way off. I do not see rear end gears or converter in your mods..........

frankwjr · 12-04-2017, 08:26 AM

whew..if money grew on trees..street cars it's all about hp/tq where you need it...not dyno #'s..bolt on cars IMHO waste on a dyno..try PM'ing dynoSteve at RDP...get a free education and save $$$ with his SCT/tune deal...the man has serious skillz...peace out.

sherob · 12-04-2017, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by frankwjr

whew..if money grew on trees..street cars it's all about hp/tq where you need it...not dyno #'s..bolt on cars IMHO waste on a dyno..try PM'ing dynoSteve at RDP...get a free education and save $$$ with his SCT/tune deal...the man has serious skillz...peace out.

Avenging Orange · 12-04-2017, 02:57 PM

Actually not too bad for an l99. Different dynos read different #'s...plus a lot of other factors are in the mix. I agree dyno's are simply a tuning tool. Its all about how competent your tuner is and what your car demands (i.e., what parameters it functions best in). Although mail order tunes are great with simple bolt ons. ...I firmly believe a cammed vehicle benefits from a proper dyno tune. And lastly.....how does your car feel? As someone else said....its not about the numbers, it's about having the hp/tq when and where you need it.

Galonso$* · 12-05-2017, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

Actually not too bad for an l99. Different dynos read different #'s...plus a lot of other factors are in the mix. I agree dyno's are simply a tuning tool. Its all about how competent your tuner is and what your car demands (i.e., what parameters it functions best in). Although mail order tunes are great with simple bolt ons. ...I firmly believe a cammed vehicle benefits from a proper dyno tune. And lastly.....how does your car feel? As someone else said....its not about the numbers, it's about having the hp/tq when and where you need it.

It drives and feels great. I love every second of it especially now that i got i an actual daily driver now. The thing is the shop and the guy who installed the cam for me didn’t have time to dyno it when he tuned so i don’t know if that’s a factor so i only got to dyno it at the big car events that happen in my area. Trying to do everything i can to get to 450 rwhp before hitting the big mods like NOS and superchargers

LCPLPunk · 12-05-2017, 08:19 PM

GPIs smallest cam makes about 450 rwhp....just for reference

PalmerGA · 12-06-2017, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by frankwjr

..try PM'ing dynoSteve at RDP...get a free education and save $$$ with his SCT/tune deal...the man has serious skillz...peace out.

^^^ THIS ^^^

jc615 · 12-06-2017, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LCPLPunk

GPIs smallest cam makes about 450 rwhp....just for reference

I wouldn't compare to this.

I had a tsp stage 2 and was within 10 rwhp. Depending on mods and dyno you're in the ballpark. With my gpi stage 4 I'm at 480rwhp with bigger stall and gears. It all depends on the setup

LCPLPunk · 12-06-2017, 06:11 PM

Ya, but he's got a stage 2 and is at 416...

StingrayblueSS · 12-06-2017, 06:27 PM

I wouldn't be happy with 416hp with a cam. Seems low to me unless your baseline was really low

12-04-2017, 01:42 AM	#1
Galonso$* Drives: 2012 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Princeton, KY Posts: 24	Should i get a better tune? Long post here incoming. I honestly feel like i should be pushing more power then i should now. Right now I’m pushing a max of 416 HP and 394 TQ and that’s with Headers with high flow cats,, stage 2 cam and the tune i got with the cam. Is this normal average numbers for an auto SS for what mods i have? Also I’ll prob get another tune from a shop 4 hours away that a buddy got his tune at and can add more power then i do now for $600 from what my buddy has told me. Is that $600 tune worth it? I’ve seen on here that most actual good dyno tunes are $400 to $600. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS L99, LT KOOKs Headers with Highflow Cats, Straight Piped, BTR Stage 2 Cam w/ tune and DOD/AFM delete

12-04-2017, 05:24 AM	#2
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,072 View My Garage	Need to go to the track and see how it runs before you decide. A guy I work with used to have a tuned 2010 SS auto with a TSP full exhaust and intake and it would walk my car.....didn't matter if it was a dig, 20 roll, 40 roll ect.... I'd lose. His car made 385, mine made 416 at that time. My car had a PTB and intake. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

12-04-2017, 06:58 AM	#3
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,588 View My Garage	Your going stage 2 instead of four....well that's left you where you are, a tune will gain maybe a good dyno a few HP if the old one is screwed up......Don't look for miracles throwing money around it has to be in the right place, now if you had stage four and were that low...yes the tune maybe way off. I do not see rear end gears or converter in your mods.......... __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

12-04-2017, 08:26 AM	#4
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,446	whew..if money grew on trees..street cars it's all about hp/tq where you need it...not dyno #'s..bolt on cars IMHO waste on a dyno..try PM'ing dynoSteve at RDP...get a free education and save $$$ with his SCT/tune deal...the man has serious skillz...peace out. __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

12-04-2017, 02:57 PM	#6
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Actually not too bad for an l99. Different dynos read different #'s...plus a lot of other factors are in the mix. I agree dyno's are simply a tuning tool. Its all about how competent your tuner is and what your car demands (i.e., what parameters it functions best in). Although mail order tunes are great with simple bolt ons. ...I firmly believe a cammed vehicle benefits from a proper dyno tune. And lastly.....how does your car feel? As someone else said....its not about the numbers, it's about having the hp/tq when and where you need it. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

12-05-2017, 08:19 PM	#8
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	GPIs smallest cam makes about 450 rwhp....just for reference __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

12-06-2017, 06:11 PM	#11
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	Ya, but he's got a stage 2 and is at 416... __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

12-06-2017, 06:27 PM	#12
StingrayblueSS Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Indiana Posts: 901	I wouldn't be happy with 416hp with a cam. Seems low to me unless your baseline was really low