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05-14-2011, 04:23 PM | #30 | |
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It appears that I can do both, monitor the race, update my Camaro5 post concerning the race and educate us on how the gas guzzler tax works at the same time.. How do I do this? I'm on a MAC... Here is the GG tax rules quoted then I will post the link after.
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Although exact production numbers are not discussed, numbers can be taken by vehicles we know that do not pass and get a pretty good idea where the limits are (and you need to talk to people that know about this stuff). The CTS-V was able to reduce its GG tax rate by selling under 10,000 units by a bracket, the GT500 was able to avoid the tax all together by selling less than 5500. It all depends on the amount the car is forced to pay and the amount sold as well.... I'm not trying to make you look dumb on this subject, I didn't even know about this until it was discussed and I searched for someone who was educated on the subject. Chevrolet has stated that the ZL1's production would not affect Chevrolets EPA rating (in so many words). That means that there will be a cap for the ZL1. Let me know if you have any questions, I will be happy to answer them... |
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Please pay me some respect, when I post something... it isn't going to be BS... Edit: You are correct about the window sticker MPG value though, here is what the EPA says... Quote:
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05-14-2011, 05:37 PM | #34 | |
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05-14-2011, 06:01 PM | #35 | |
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I don't know if your in that 1% or not, I myself could be considered a 1%er... I have owned more Camaro's than most of the members here probably have.. and two plum purple Firebirds (ex-girlfriends idea, not mine). |
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05-14-2011, 06:17 PM | #36 |
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I spent a day with the 2SS on Tuesday and some on Wednesday, the sedan feeling is mostly from the suspension. The FE4 option should be aimed at getting rid of that floating that you feel and go with harder springs. Under the "S" bends, the rear wiggled but found its place again upon exit with a little gas. The visibility is not that great, the drivers side A pillar is the worst. I imagine if a helmet was worn and we were strapped in via a 5 point, we wouldn't be able to move our heads to see around it. The torque was great, you can definitely feel the seat... I don't know if I would want to label these cars as "Muscle Cars", I remember what happened to the last batch of muscle cars, while our pony cars were defining the meaning of "Sports Coupes"....
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I just hope they bring the Z28 back, stuff an LS7 in it, and deliver it to me!
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05-14-2011, 08:13 PM | #38 | |
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I totally disagree that the Camaro feels sedan -like, go back to your Mustang/Mopar forums...
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Edit: your entire post is your assumptions, stateing them as facts. The Fact is you and everybody else on this forum has no Idea what GM is up to except Fbodfather and maybe Number 3. |
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05-15-2011, 03:36 AM | #41 | |
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With almost 20lbs of extra weight last year and at least 50lbs coming this year with a FE4 optioned SS. (power passenger seats are 20-25lbs themselves), we are looking at a 3950lbs 2SS this year. GM is in bad need of a stripper Z28 now more than ever... Leftlane list the 2011 2SS at 3902lbs and the LT is listed at 3780lbs but I don't know if those are autos or not, I will do some more research and see where the extra weight comes from... Edit: Disregard, the 3902lbs is listed as a 6 speed manual. http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-camaro-ss.html You can also google "2011 Camaro 2SS 3902 curb weight" and see many publications that use that curb weight for the 2SS. I myself cannot see that much weight being gained from 2010 to 2011, I can see a simple 15-20lbs being gained but that's about it... unless GM gets their curb weights will a half or 3/4 tank of gas which I heard they are permitted to do. This would hold weight as Edmunds tested the 2010 2SS at 3894lbs so seeing that the 2011 2SS is routinely tipping the scales over 3900lbs doesn't come as a surprise. It's also worth noting that the 2011 Camaro V6 automatic weighed 3800lbs even during the last 4 way comparison in Motor Trend. It gained 20lbs over the 2010 Camaro V6 auto (3780lbs) so it is safe to say that the entire lineup gained about 20lbs from 2010 to 2011. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/specs.html Last edited by thePill; 05-15-2011 at 04:29 AM. |
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05-15-2011, 03:48 AM | #42 | |
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2011 Camaro vs. 2011 Mustang Headroom Showdown!!!! Looks like the there is a 1.1" more head room but the Camaro has 1.3" more shoulder room... The seat were pretty comfortable, I just didn't like the headrest... Now, lets get back to the Z28... |
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