Anyone have a tune causr problems??

[angie7]

I have a Superchips tune on the way. I know it voids the warranty as long as they can prove it's a ditect result but Ive never tuned a car and curious if anyone has ever had one directly mess up their car?

[SPCBA]

crap tunes will do crap things to your car. best to get it dyno and street tuned by a professional.

[thahemp]

Originally Posted by angie7

I have a Superchips tune on the way. I know it voids the warranty as long as they can prove it's a ditect result but Ive never tuned a car and curious if anyone has ever had one directly mess up their car?

They don't have to prove anything. If you're tuned, and they check your ECU, you're screwed.

If you're giving up your warranty, then make sure you know who who's taking care of you. Superchips... call their customer service line while you're waiting to tune and see how it goes. I don't know anything about them, but you need to make sure you're aware of everything that can happen if you go this route.

[SSMickey]

The only way I would spend money on a hand held tuner is if it has the ability to load a custom tune. Otherwise, IMO, it's a waste of money. I had a Superchips tuner for my 04 Silverado, and let's just say I was less than impressed. Went back to stock after a week and got a custom tune.

[Tampa Tuning]

Originally Posted by SSMickey

The only way I would spend money on a hand held tuner is if it has the ability to load a custom tune.

that's the problem with the hand held units just like a mail order tune. They are someone elses tune made to work in your car. I dont call that custom, I call that making a tune work in your car.

The only time I call a custom tune a custom tune is when Im actually plugged into a clients vehicle changing percentages in real time.

You'll notice a performance differance, but its not optimizing your vehicle through calibration.

Phil
www.TampaTuning.com

[quincy speeder]

Originally Posted by Tampa Tuning

that's the problem with the hand held units just like a mail order tune. They are someone elses tune made to work in your car. I dont call that custom, I call that making a tune work in your car.

The only time I call a custom tune a custom tune is when Im actually plugged into a clients vehicle changing percentages in real time.

You'll notice a performance differance, but its not optimizing your vehicle through calibration.

Phil
www.TampaTuning.com

Thats a good way to put it.

Some people will claim it's the same by tons of experience. I had one, it was off alot.

[angie7]

I got the tune for free so Im not out any money on it. I mainly want it to disable the AFM, and get a better throttle response. Simple stuff really. I dont race or drag it, not a daily driver. A weekend car I take to shows. Is it worth it?

[quincy speeder]

Free, great. Doesn't mean its good for your car.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by quincy speeder

Thats a good way to put it.

Some people will claim it's the same by tons of experience. I had one, it was off alot.

Yep, its easy for tuners to make a generic (one size fits all) tune for different setups (an intake, or intake and headers, etc). The next step is to play the back and forth game until you get the tune right (or close enough to call it a day).

I always encourage people to get a dyno/street tune by a skilled professional. When you leave you have a car that's perfectly tuned exactly the way you want it.

[rberns]

Originally Posted by Tampa Tuning

that's the problem with the hand held units just like a mail order tune. They are someone elses tune made to work in your car. I dont call that custom, I call that making a tune work in your car.

The only time I call a custom tune a custom tune is when Im actually plugged into a clients vehicle changing percentages in real time.

You'll notice a performance differance, but its not optimizing your vehicle through calibration.

Phil
www.TampaTuning.com

So how would this compare to having JRE doing a handheld tune? Would that be considered a can/mail order tune? I was under the impression that JRE takes your stock tune and tweaks it and emails it back to you.

[Partlow]

Originally Posted by angie7

I got the tune for free so Im not out any money on it. I mainly want it to disable the AFM, and get a better throttle response. Simple stuff really. I dont race or drag it, not a daily driver. A weekend car I take to shows. Is it worth it?

You can get an afm delete that won't void your warranty =)

[quincy speeder]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Yep, its easy for tuners to make a generic (one size fits all) tune for different setups (an intake, or intake and headers, etc). The next step is to play the back and forth game until you get the tune right (or close enough to call it a day).

I always encourage people to get a dyno/street tune by a skilled professional. When you leave you have a car that's perfectly tuned exactly the way you want it.

I agree. Mine was tuned by a well known tuner on this board via handheld. My tune consisted of TM delete, CAGS delete, various codes for headers and for power, just the PE A/F was changed. Stock timing and everything else not changed. Car ran ok.
Took my own software out to scan about a month later, KR everywhere.

Had a local tuner do his tuning. Instantly felt alot better. I scanned it after, no KR and alot of table's changed. Car was just a lot smoother to drive.

So, I'm done with mail order or hand held stuff on GM's.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by quincy speeder

I agree. Mine was tuned by a well known tuner on this board via handheld. My tune consisted of TM delete, CAGS delete, various codes for headers and for power, just the PE A/F was changed. Stock timing and everything else not changed. Car ran ok.
Took my own software out to scan about a month later, KR everywhere.

Had a local tuner do his tuning. Instantly felt alot better. I scanned it after, no KR and alot of table's changed. Car was just a lot smoother to drive.

So, I'm done with mail order or hand held stuff on GM's.

I often get P.M.s from guys that feel the same way (swithed from popular hand held tunes to dyno/street tunes done locally). This information is rarely posted because of the popularity of some of these tunes.

[MA2010SS]

I wouldn't touch a hand held tuning device myself. I've used HP Tuners and I know how many parameters there are within the software. Personally I've only done some minor tweaks to my car with HPT and after I installed my whipple it was time for a real pro who knows these cars in and out to get my tune spot on.