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brick59 · 11-24-2020, 07:55 AM

I think I had to grind a little bit off to get it to fit.

13ashengrey · 11-24-2020, 08:09 AM

I had to grind as well to get factory struts to fit. Ended up going BMR/Strange later down the road. And the 2013 factory sway bar will not work. I went with the BMR drag bar. 275/60s have no rub issue but if you go bigger there may be a little trimming as stated above.

DARKTHIRTY777 · 11-24-2020, 02:08 PM

I also had to grind some of it off to fit. I finished it up today. Seems to be a 2 inch higher gap between tire and wheel well now.

DARKTHIRTY777 · 11-24-2020, 02:15 PM

Did I put this little bar that connects to the rear sway bar and lower control arm correctly?

DARKTHIRTY777 · 11-29-2020, 12:27 PM

I emailed Carlyle Racing and they told me that this kit should not have raised the rear suspension. This thing is definitely sitting 2 inches higher than the stock suspension. I loosened all the nuts and bolts then set the car on its on weight. Still the car sets this high. I suppose the only thing left is to get some lowering coilovers. Any helpful suggestions would be great.

brick59 · 11-29-2020, 06:24 PM

I don't care what Carlyle Racing says it raises the back of the car, I have my measurements before and after it raised mine 3/4 to 1 inch.

On your car have you moved the car? if not the suspension will settle down if you just move it back and forth a few feet.

DARKTHIRTY777 · 11-29-2020, 09:39 PM

No, I have not moved my car at all. I still have to bleed the brakes. I was going to wait and get this figured out. Looking at the stock springs both springs are out of its groove and higher. I am thinking this set up is not made for stock shocks.

brick59 · 11-30-2020, 04:41 AM

Since the brakes aren't done I would push the car back and forth a few feet and see what it looks like then, you will be surprised it will settle.

DARKTHIRTY777 · 11-30-2020, 07:46 AM

I will tighten the bolts back and try that. Thanks for the reply.

eLeSthree · 12-02-2020, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DARKTHIRTY777

I emailed Carlyle Racing and they told me that this kit should not have raised the rear suspension. This thing is definitely sitting 2 inches higher than the stock suspension. I loosened all the nuts and bolts then set the car on its on weight. Still the car sets this high. I suppose the only thing left is to get some lowering coilovers. Any helpful suggestions would be great.

I spoke with Carlyle about the Wilwood brakes that come in their kits. They said I could use my stock brembo banjo bolts in the wilwood caliper. They were wrong. Different size bolts. My point is, trust but verify, because people get it wrong sometimes.

What is your overall tire/wheel height? Mine is about 27inches. I know were using different suspension components, but I was able to get about 1/2' out of the gap by timing the bushings. I had to prop the car up on bricks or whatever, then jump up and down in the trunk to make it settle. Then tighten all bolts from underneath. Good thing I had an assistant.

The pics arent showing the 1/2, just where I ended up. Still not perfectly even. This is with strange coilovers set in the middle, then backed down about 1/4 inch.

some friends talked me out of the carlyle kit, said bmr was the way to go. but its alot more $. hope you get it sorted out.

eLeSthree · 12-02-2020, 06:13 AM

Also, about the end links.. I would not connect it to the LCA until the car is at ride height. Then pull the swaybar down to a neutral position, and adjust the linkage until both are the same, then tighten the bolts, then tighten the nut.

DARKTHIRTY777 · 12-02-2020, 10:45 AM

From the ground to the fender is 32 1/2". Only reason I didn't use BMR is because I wanted to keep the emergency brake. I will loosen both sides and have a jumping party in the trunk.

eLeSthree · 12-02-2020, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DARKTHIRTY777

From the ground to the fender is 32 1/2". Only reason I didn't use BMR is because I wanted to keep the emergency brake. I will loosen both sides and have a jumping party in the trunk.

I didnt lose my emergency brake. The aerospace brake kit does not re-use the stock ebrake, but the wilwood does.

I guess what I meant was, what size tire are you running on which wheel? I have read (and I'm not 100% sure about this) that the Carlyle lca's will only work with 15inch wheels made by Weld Racing. Without additional clearancing of the arms.

DARKTHIRTY777 · 12-02-2020, 11:36 AM

I purchased the full drag kit with welds. Not sure on the size of the tires.

11-24-2020, 07:55 AM	#15
brick59 Sucker Punch Drives: 2013 Black ZL1, 2007 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 275	I think I had to grind a little bit off to get it to fit. __________________ 427 Dart SHP Pro LS Block, Callies Magnum Crank, Callies Ultra I Beam Rods, Diamond Pistons, AGP twin Turbos 6865, Mast heads, Cam Motion LLR cam, Morel tie bar lifters, Crower roller rockers, NW 103MM TB, ID2600 XDS, Fore Triple, DSX, E85, ARH Turbo Headers, Corsa, Jakes stage 5 4L80, Circle D, RPM Roll Bar, BMR, Carlyle Racing 15" conversion kit.

11-24-2020, 08:09 AM	#16
13ashengrey Drives: 2013 2SS Ashen Grey Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Corydon, IN Posts: 450 View My Garage	I had to grind as well to get factory struts to fit. Ended up going BMR/Strange later down the road. And the 2013 factory sway bar will not work. I went with the BMR drag bar. 275/60s have no rub issue but if you go bigger there may be a little trimming as stated above. __________________ 5.98 @ 115mph

11-24-2020, 02:08 PM	#17
DARKTHIRTY777 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 452	I also had to grind some of it off to fit. I finished it up today. Seems to be a 2 inch higher gap between tire and wheel well now. __________________ 2011 ls3 ss/rs, Kooks long tube headers, gutted high flow cats, 231/239. 624" lifted squared 115+3 lsa comp cam, ecs supercharger, Alky methanol kit, DSS 1000hp axles, BMR toe rods, BMR trailering arms, Fore innovations dual fuel pump. Flex fuel sensor and 360 custom tunes, hp tuners NGAUGE. 752 hp with 93 octane and 825 hp with E85.

11-24-2020, 02:15 PM	#18
DARKTHIRTY777 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 452	Did I put this little bar that connects to the rear sway bar and lower control arm correctly? Attached Images __________________ 2011 ls3 ss/rs, Kooks long tube headers, gutted high flow cats, 231/239. 624" lifted squared 115+3 lsa comp cam, ecs supercharger, Alky methanol kit, DSS 1000hp axles, BMR toe rods, BMR trailering arms, Fore innovations dual fuel pump. Flex fuel sensor and 360 custom tunes, hp tuners NGAUGE. 752 hp with 93 octane and 825 hp with E85.

11-29-2020, 12:27 PM	#19
DARKTHIRTY777 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 452	I emailed Carlyle Racing and they told me that this kit should not have raised the rear suspension. This thing is definitely sitting 2 inches higher than the stock suspension. I loosened all the nuts and bolts then set the car on its on weight. Still the car sets this high. I suppose the only thing left is to get some lowering coilovers. Any helpful suggestions would be great. Attached Images __________________ 2011 ls3 ss/rs, Kooks long tube headers, gutted high flow cats, 231/239. 624" lifted squared 115+3 lsa comp cam, ecs supercharger, Alky methanol kit, DSS 1000hp axles, BMR toe rods, BMR trailering arms, Fore innovations dual fuel pump. Flex fuel sensor and 360 custom tunes, hp tuners NGAUGE. 752 hp with 93 octane and 825 hp with E85.

11-29-2020, 06:24 PM	#20
brick59 Sucker Punch Drives: 2013 Black ZL1, 2007 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 275	I don't care what Carlyle Racing says it raises the back of the car, I have my measurements before and after it raised mine 3/4 to 1 inch. On your car have you moved the car? if not the suspension will settle down if you just move it back and forth a few feet. __________________ 427 Dart SHP Pro LS Block, Callies Magnum Crank, Callies Ultra I Beam Rods, Diamond Pistons, AGP twin Turbos 6865, Mast heads, Cam Motion LLR cam, Morel tie bar lifters, Crower roller rockers, NW 103MM TB, ID2600 XDS, Fore Triple, DSX, E85, ARH Turbo Headers, Corsa, Jakes stage 5 4L80, Circle D, RPM Roll Bar, BMR, Carlyle Racing 15" conversion kit.

11-29-2020, 09:39 PM	#21
DARKTHIRTY777 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 452	No, I have not moved my car at all. I still have to bleed the brakes. I was going to wait and get this figured out. Looking at the stock springs both springs are out of its groove and higher. I am thinking this set up is not made for stock shocks. __________________ 2011 ls3 ss/rs, Kooks long tube headers, gutted high flow cats, 231/239. 624" lifted squared 115+3 lsa comp cam, ecs supercharger, Alky methanol kit, DSS 1000hp axles, BMR toe rods, BMR trailering arms, Fore innovations dual fuel pump. Flex fuel sensor and 360 custom tunes, hp tuners NGAUGE. 752 hp with 93 octane and 825 hp with E85.

11-30-2020, 04:41 AM	#22
brick59 Sucker Punch Drives: 2013 Black ZL1, 2007 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 275	Since the brakes aren't done I would push the car back and forth a few feet and see what it looks like then, you will be surprised it will settle. __________________ 427 Dart SHP Pro LS Block, Callies Magnum Crank, Callies Ultra I Beam Rods, Diamond Pistons, AGP twin Turbos 6865, Mast heads, Cam Motion LLR cam, Morel tie bar lifters, Crower roller rockers, NW 103MM TB, ID2600 XDS, Fore Triple, DSX, E85, ARH Turbo Headers, Corsa, Jakes stage 5 4L80, Circle D, RPM Roll Bar, BMR, Carlyle Racing 15" conversion kit.

11-30-2020, 07:46 AM	#23
DARKTHIRTY777 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 452	I will tighten the bolts back and try that. Thanks for the reply. __________________ 2011 ls3 ss/rs, Kooks long tube headers, gutted high flow cats, 231/239. 624" lifted squared 115+3 lsa comp cam, ecs supercharger, Alky methanol kit, DSS 1000hp axles, BMR toe rods, BMR trailering arms, Fore innovations dual fuel pump. Flex fuel sensor and 360 custom tunes, hp tuners NGAUGE. 752 hp with 93 octane and 825 hp with E85.

12-02-2020, 06:13 AM	#25
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	Also, about the end links.. I would not connect it to the LCA until the car is at ride height. Then pull the swaybar down to a neutral position, and adjust the linkage until both are the same, then tighten the bolts, then tighten the nut. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

12-02-2020, 10:45 AM	#26
DARKTHIRTY777 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 452	From the ground to the fender is 32 1/2". Only reason I didn't use BMR is because I wanted to keep the emergency brake. I will loosen both sides and have a jumping party in the trunk. __________________ 2011 ls3 ss/rs, Kooks long tube headers, gutted high flow cats, 231/239. 624" lifted squared 115+3 lsa comp cam, ecs supercharger, Alky methanol kit, DSS 1000hp axles, BMR toe rods, BMR trailering arms, Fore innovations dual fuel pump. Flex fuel sensor and 360 custom tunes, hp tuners NGAUGE. 752 hp with 93 octane and 825 hp with E85.

12-02-2020, 11:36 AM	#28
DARKTHIRTY777 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 452	I purchased the full drag kit with welds. Not sure on the size of the tires. __________________ 2011 ls3 ss/rs, Kooks long tube headers, gutted high flow cats, 231/239. 624" lifted squared 115+3 lsa comp cam, ecs supercharger, Alky methanol kit, DSS 1000hp axles, BMR toe rods, BMR trailering arms, Fore innovations dual fuel pump. Flex fuel sensor and 360 custom tunes, hp tuners NGAUGE. 752 hp with 93 octane and 825 hp with E85.