Now that the ZL1 is out, what do you want the Z28 to be?

[R6P]

Well, although I do think it would be lighter up front than the supercharged V8 of the ZL1 given the size & technology of todays turbo's, weight is not the main reason I'd like to see it.
I had the pleasure of owning a 1987 Buick Grand National. Knowing what that car was capable of, and knowing the advancements that have been made since those days, I believe a turbocharged V6 (be it single or twin) would be a great fit for the Camaro. And yes, I think fuel economy will also be a plus.
I'm not saying a turbocharged V6 would ever compare to the ZL1, just looking for an alternative.
A turbo V6, with gearing & suspension upgrades....

[80Zedder]

They will prolly wait for the gen v block for the z28.

I would like to see a stripped down car "ala viper". No frills minimal power options " crank windows!!!! Lol". New hood and power spoiler/airbrake like the veyron. Hid's because they look so good. No sunroof, black leather and only available in black metallic and custom striping. Twin supercharge that bitch!!! Factory longtube headers with a set of power plates.

6 speed tremec or a 6 speed autogate. This should be a factory ordered race car for the road. No frills, all fun.

I would beat Hendricks to the punch and purchase number 1 for myself and do massive burnouts out the plant floor and out the door.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Cam#7

As long as it's taken to get the ZL1 out, the Gen5 body is going loose it's edge before the Z-28 comes out. The ZL1 will be short term (Gen5 only) because of costs. How many of these are they really to sell at Corvette prices? Look for the Z-28 to replace it as a street fighter on the Gen6s.

I think you assume a lot...but aren't grounding it in reality.

They invested a crap-ton of time and effort into this new ZL1...it will be a success; and earn a reputation that's well-deserved. You don't throw that momentum away just because a new generation rolls around. I think it makes the most sense that the ZL1 formula will be carried over into the 6th generation in 2016 as the Top-of-the-line model.

The sales will probably hover around 5000 units a year, which is all they need. It's not a high-volume Camaro like the SS, so don't worry about how many they sell.

As far as the Z28...I imaging it will return...either in this generation, or the next...and I'm seeing it built in a similar fashion to the Boss 302. Which will most likely sell at an even LOWER volume than the ZL1, by the way.....;

Originally Posted by Number 3

....So why is this a Z28?

It sounds a lot like a complicated, futuristic SS to me............

[Revo1]

I doubt we'll see a Z28. Too many models will cannibalize sales. I could see maybe a COPO catalog becoming available for those who want to order a stripped down racemaro, but doubt a 5th gen Z28 is going to happen.

[Synerbee]

around same price as an SS
beefed up suspension
maybe a slight HP lose to cost down
It going to be like the 4th gen z/28 they aren't going to make it track spec car with no air conditioning. If you really want to you can take it out after

[Cam#7]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

As far as the Z28...I imaging it will return...either in this generation, or the next...and I'm seeing it built in a similar fashion to the Boss 302. Which will most likely sell at an even LOWER volume than the ZL1, by the way.....;

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No way this expensive ZL1 outsells a Z-28 unless GM quits making the Corvette. Anybody else thinks this ZL1 will outsell a Z-28 that is $5,000 more than a SS with F4 suspension, 475 HP naturally aspirated engine and a decent hood and front-end????

[shawn18]

Originally Posted by Cam#7

No way this expensive ZL1 outsells a Z-28 unless GM quits making the Corvette. Anybody else thinks this ZL1 will outsell a Z-28 that is $5,000 more than a SS with F4 suspension, 475 HP naturally aspirated engine and a decent hood and front-end????

I hope the Z/28 is exactly as you describe. I will not even entertain the idea of a ZL-1. I would however sell a kidney for a Z/28 so to speak. I just really want one bad even if I cant buy new and have to wait a few years and get a used one..........

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Cam#7

No way this expensive ZL1 outsells a Z-28 unless GM quits making the Corvette. Anybody else thinks this ZL1 will outsell a Z-28 that is $5,000 more than a SS with F4 suspension, 475 HP naturally aspirated engine and a decent hood and front-end????

If that's the Z28...that would be incredibly disappointing
What you describe is an overpriced 2012 SS with headers and a new face........

I will stand by my thought process that IF the Z28 makes it back -- it will be a race-spec car similar in nature to the Boss 302. And if that all happens...it WON'T outsell the ZL1 as things stand right now.


EDIT: fwiw, as this conversation continues...or doesn't...I am a HUGE fan of Z28. I wanted this car to use the nameplate as much as anyone else....but it is what it is, and I've gotten used to it.

[Cam#7]

The Z-28 should have it's own engine. If GM can easily get 312hp out of the 3.6 V6 using regular gas, how about a 5.5 V8 version using premium gas. If you do the math and just add two cylinders; you would have a 4.9 liter with (312 x 1.3333) 416 hp. Now bump this up to 5.5 liters and tune it for premium gas. You've got a Z-28 that 90% of us Z-28 nuts would buy.

[Tom]

No Z-28 now since the ZL1 is coming out.

[Rip]

Originally Posted by steeleshark2

GM pretty much said there will be on the chat last night.

I went back and read the thread with their responses. No offense, but this is a prime example of a good PR person giving the right non-answer. Everyone that reads it will read into it exactly what they want. I didn't see in any of their responses regarding the Z28 where they remotely "pretty much said there will be". I saw very vague, evasive non-answers. As I said earlier, it makes no financial sense to add yet a 7th trim level to the 5th gen.

[AlohaBR]

Z28, no Z28?
I am confident that GM knows what they are doing, and Should the Z28 be produced it will be something I would be interested in. If GM/Chevy(sorry Chevrolet), follows what they have been doing, I would guess that it would lean on some of the 1st gen history but with modern era technology.
I have full confidence in the Camaro team to have something special for the Z28 name, should it become reality.
Like someone says....Keep the faith!

P.S. The ZL1 name .... I think is perfect for the car they are coming out with.

[BlissStreet]

Originally Posted by Rip

That will make, what, 6 different trim levels? I don't see them adding a 7th, since things like that are a big part of what put them into bankruptcy in the first place.

This. It makes more sense to focus on a few, profitable lines then dilute into many differing ones where none of them sell well.

[Rip]

Originally Posted by BlissStreet

This. It makes more sense to focus on a few, profitable lines then dilute into many differing ones where none of them sell well.

Yep, there really is no price range to put another one that wouldn't be competing with what they already offer. Like I said, they have done it before, so anything's possible, but one would hope that they have learned from past mistakes.