10-31-2018, 10:06 AM | #1 |
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NEW GM/Camaro loss of control issue.
https://www.facebook.com/TheGrimReap...84140834939275 My Camaro's accelerator stopped functioning at highway speeds in heavy traffic. I had to coast to a stop while dodging traffic. The engine ran, at idle. I put it in park. I still could not accelerate. I could floor it. Nothing but idle. I turned off the power and cut it back on and I was able to engage the accelerator to get off the freeway and have it towed to a dealer. These are almost the same symptoms as the functional hack as demonstrated in the wired magazine "Jeep Hack" video. After troubleshooting it 9 days, the dealer gave me the following info. U100 Data bus: engine control module (ECM) A - no communication U101 Data bus: transmission control module (TCM) - no communication U121 Data bus: anti-lock brake system (ABS) control module - no communication U176 Data bus: supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor G - no communication I believe this to be either a very serious defect, or a malicious hacking attempt. ( I once had a menu in Arabic which they say doesn't exist on the system) I lost control of the vehicle at highway speeds. I can't drive this vehicle without the fear of it happening again. Without warning. GM's official answer is that they will give me an oil change coupon. I do not find this satisfactory. I find it a huge danger to my life and those around me. I am insulted that GM finds it funny. Research I have done shows that they have covered up stuff like this before. I think the public needs to know. I asked GM for contact info on their federal overseer for the ignition issue. They refused. I have filed an NHTSA complaint https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=11142983 and I'm putting this out there to warn the public, contact me at floydyancey@gmail.com for questions. |
10-31-2018, 10:31 AM | #2 |
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Sorry this happened to you, and hope the TSB fixed it permanently, but you posted this to the wrong forum. This is the gen 6 forums. Post it here: www.camaro5.com.
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10-31-2018, 10:39 AM | #3 |
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The modern GM is no better than the past GM. They are killing themselves.
For the price of a new vehicle, any new vehicle, it should have been properly tested before it ever hit the dealer. The vendors who make these products should be vetted prior to manufacture, not after. OR..... GM needs to bring it all back in house.
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10-31-2018, 10:43 AM | #4 |
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NEW GM/Camaro loss of control issue.
https://www.facebook.com/TheGrimReap...84140834939275 My Camaro's accelerator stopped functioning at highway speeds in heavy traffic. I had to coast to a stop while dodging traffic. The engine ran, at idle. I put it in park. I still could not accelerate. I could floor it. Nothing but idle. I turned off the power and cut it back on and I was able to engage the accelerator to get off the freeway and have it towed to a dealer. These are almost the same symptoms as the functional hack as demonstrated in the wired magazine "Jeep Hack" video. After troubleshooting it 9 days, the dealer gave me the following info. U100 Data bus: engine control module (ECM) A - no communication U101 Data bus: transmission control module (TCM) - no communication U121 Data bus: anti-lock brake system (ABS) control module - no communication U176 Data bus: supplementary restraint system (SRS) sensor G - no communication I believe this to be either a very serious defect, or a malicious hacking attempt. ( I once had a menu in Arabic which they say doesn't exist on the system) I lost control of the vehicle at highway speeds. I can't drive this vehicle without the fear of it happening again. Without warning. GM's official answer is that they will give me an oil change coupon. I do not find this satisfactory. I find it a huge danger to my life and those around me. I am insulted that GM finds it funny. Research I have done shows that they have covered up stuff like this before. I think the public needs to know. I asked GM for contact info on their federal overseer for the ignition issue. They refused. I have filed an NHTSA complaint https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=11142983 and I'm putting this out there to warn the public, contact me at floydyancey@gmail.com for questions. |
10-31-2018, 10:50 AM | #5 |
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I really feel bad for people today who think a car dying while driving is a conspiracy of someone hacking their car and they are too scared to drive it anymore. When I was growing up cars dying was a common occurrence. You pulled it over and fixed it or towed it to a repair shop. Now everyones car breaks down once and they organize a congressional oversight committee to investigate.
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10-31-2018, 10:58 AM | #6 | |
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This is not to excuse GM, but with today's computer-driven cars and the resulting quantity of electronics / wiring involved, incidents like these are not surprising. With that said, anything that can endanger lives should be a recall, not a 'let's wait till it happens' TSB. |
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10-31-2018, 11:02 AM | #7 |
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So there's a failure on a car, it's repaired by the dealer and now there's a world conspiracy?
It sounds more like the start of a negotiation for a new car... |
10-31-2018, 11:08 AM | #8 |
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Can someone translate the arabic? I'm guessing it's just the std menu text but maybe it's saying "prepare to die, infidel!"? That would be a dead give-away.
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10-31-2018, 11:15 AM | #9 |
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roughly translated into
"N/A Timer Set / Clr Menu timer for number of session times " so sayeth the google translate |
10-31-2018, 11:36 AM | #10 |
What led you to believe they find it funny?
Glad I have a manual transmission...
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10-31-2018, 11:45 AM | #11 |
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One vehicle's failure does not a trend, a hack, or conspiracy make. Yes, GM has handled failures badly before, and it's understandable to be mad at them over this failure, but jumping right into assuming the worst is totally unjustified based on one incident. Things do break occasionally, it's part of life.
Short of an older car with little electronics tied to vehicle control, the best defense against a malicious hack - a manual transmission. "They" may still be able to mess with the EPS to steer you into something and brake or not brake at a bad moment - either with potentially serious results to you or others - but if their idea is to turn you into a road-going missile/battering ram, they can command your engine to red-line until it breaks or runs out of fuel, but a timely press of the clutch pedal will at least limit their ability to really load up on velocity/energy before doing something awful. |
10-31-2018, 12:08 PM | #12 |
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A whole lot of tinfoil needed in this post. Good grief man, have some patience, intermittent problems like these are a nightmare to diagnose and repair. Arabic is present, it's a matter of programming to make it come up.
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10-31-2018, 12:10 PM | #13 |
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Not minimizing the pucker moment of having the car stall out, but at least GM had a fix for it, the car didn't get damaged, and no one was hurt.
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10-31-2018, 12:30 PM | #14 |
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Should probably post this on the 5th gen side as a heads up too
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