November 2013 Road and Track magazine: ZL1 vs GT 500 - Page 3 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

URBAN LEGEND · 10-08-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sven59

Again?

GT 500 brakes suck once again on the track. ZL1 could brake deeper into turns before turn in.

razorz28 · 10-08-2013, 10:01 AM

When the magazine ads first came out most of us didn't have our cars yet and no one had seen them on the streets. Now that production has been rolling, the article will mean more to many IMO.

Sven59 · 10-08-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

GT 500 brakes suck once again on the track. ZL1 could brake deeper into turns before turn in.

The axle doesn't help either.

URBAN LEGEND · 10-08-2013, 10:28 AM

Not sure why they went away from IRS. Ford had it in 03/04 in the Cobra.

72MachOne99GT · 10-08-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Not sure why they went away from IRS. Ford had it in 03/04 in the Cobra.

It was sloppy, and exceptionally prone to breaking where it was used most...from a launch.

*radz28* · 10-08-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

It was sloppy, and exceptionally prone to breaking where it was used most...from a launch.

At least Ford recognized this and went back to SRA. Make it stronger for where the car is going to spend most of it's time. I wouldn't fault them for that. I think they put the money where they thought it would be most beneficial for their customers at the time. Kudos.

knowitman · 10-08-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

The results are in. ZL1 wins.

That means it's out in news stands?

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URBAN LEGEND · 10-08-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by knowitman

That means it's out in news stands?

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It is. Don't buy it. Read if at Walmart. It's only about half a page at the back of mag.

72MachOne99GT · 10-09-2013, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by radz28

At least Ford recognized this and went back to SRA. Make it stronger for where the car is going to spend most of it's time. I wouldn't fault them for that. I think they put the money where they thought it would be most beneficial for their customers at the time. Kudos.

Yea, still sort of a double edged sword.

While Ford did an outstanding job nearly mastering a solid rear for handling (more toward 2011-2014 than at the introduction of the s197 platform) I think everyone is at a consensus that even a lower model independent rears are capable of outperforming the best solid rears on production cars.

Especially within the pony/sports car segment I think its true. The Boss from 11 and 12 was favored heavily over the suspension in the Camaro until the LaZy1 made a big leap to their MRS, and the 1LE was able to really improve on the base SS pinnings.

gen=5 · 11-08-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeylover86

If this was 1987 I bet all you guys would be ripping the GN/GNX since it didn't handle like a Corvette...

The current batch of Camaro guys sound like the Mustang guys from 98-02 when the LS1 was killing the 4.6...

Bottom line is this is the best time to be a car guy....

+1 After owning 2 new GN,s dad had a new GNX,and owning a new 89 LXmustang,or purchased it for my wife at the time.
Since then Other a new srt10 every performance car I have purchased from a dealer has been a GM vehicle
I also say that it's the best time to be a car guy,even if I cant enjoy them like i used too..At no other time in history has the customer of any brand been able to have such over the top choices in performance,value,and mileage..could you image what the mpg would of been in a 620 hp factory car back in the 60's & 70's lol.... If the average customer in the late 70's was told that they could get over 20mpg, with over 600hp while using the a/c they would never of found it to be believable.

URBAN LEGEND · 11-10-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gen=5

+1 After owning 2 new GN,s dad had a new GNX,and owning a new 89 LXmustang,or purchased it for my wife at the time.
Since then Other a new srt10 every performance car I have purchased from a dealer has been a GM vehicle
I also say that it's the best time to be a car guy,even if I cant enjoy them like i used too..At no other time in history has the customer of any brand been able to have such over the top choices in performance,value,and mileage..could you image what the mpg would of been in a 620 hp factory car back in the 60's & 70's lol.... If the average customer in the late 70's was told that they could get over 20mpg, with over 600hp while using the a/c they would never of found it to be believable.

No doubt. Electronics and high tech TC systems make it possible to have 662 hp cars right off show room floor. Great times for sure.

10-08-2013, 10:01 AM	#30
razorz28 Drives: 2017 Jeep Rubicon, 2016 Z06 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Abbotsford B.C. Canada Posts: 547	When the magazine ads first came out most of us didn't have our cars yet and no one had seen them on the streets. Now that production has been rolling, the article will mean more to many IMO.

10-08-2013, 10:28 AM	#32
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	Not sure why they went away from IRS. Ford had it in 03/04 in the Cobra.