Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
TireRack
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-12-2018, 05:47 PM   #1
Zl1dad
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2013 zl1
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dearborn
Posts: 253
Bias ply rear/ radials on the front

Hello, getting mixed reviews on some Mt 28/11.5/17 in the rear and 225//45/17 radials in the front . 2013 Zl1. Track use only

Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

Last edited by Zl1dad; 06-14-2018 at 07:11 AM.
Zl1dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 10:39 PM   #2
Bo White


 
Bo White's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
Posts: 8,017
I daily on the oposite
__________________
Retired wanna be cylinder head porter
2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter
Totalled:
2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X
Bo White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 10:31 AM   #3
Rhino79


 
Rhino79's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cabot, AR
Posts: 2,827
Radial fronts with bias rear will not track as well as a bias on front.

You can run a bias front well with either bias or radial rears.
Rhino79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 10:47 AM   #4
hntrgthrs
 
hntrgthrs's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 ZL1
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: NJ
Posts: 61
He's getting mixed reviews since he posted it here and we are all largely telling him not to run this combo:



https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530958


Rhino is correct. Bias in the rear with radial up front is a bad combo that is just not the proper way to do it. OP needs to get a set of skinnies up front with some frontrunners or just use a radial out back.
__________________
2015 ZL1 Coupe - Summit White | Stock (for now)
hntrgthrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 12:06 PM   #5
lazerlemonta

 
lazerlemonta's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 C6 1LT
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 879
My car at 125MPH with bias on the back and stock tires on front damn near swapped lanes at the track. It is dangerous and espicially if you are not prepared and try to correct it.
__________________
2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE
BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85

Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE
10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake
Best 1/8 6.80@105.75
Best MPH 134.82
lazerlemonta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 10:20 PM   #6
Zl1dad
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2013 zl1
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dearborn
Posts: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazerlemonta View Post
My car at 125MPH with bias on the back and stock tires on front damn near swapped lanes at the track. It is dangerous and espicially if you are not prepared and try to correct it.
That's a 10" wide on 19" rim stock front tire. I have 245 on a 17" rim. You probably had 32 psi, mine have 42psi Big difference when comparing.

Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

Last edited by Zl1dad; 06-13-2018 at 10:30 PM.
Zl1dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 10:31 PM   #7
Yellow Bullet
 
Yellow Bullet's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Chevy Sonic RS 1.4T
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 327
Why ask a question if you will automatically argue for one side? I have yet to drag my car so I don't know but what I do know is that the smartest people when it comes to our Camaros are the people on here. Just my $00.02
__________________
2015 Camaro RS/SS SIM LS3- Sold

2017 Sonic Mosaic Black RS 1.4T
Yellow Bullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 06:43 AM   #8
Zl1dad
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2013 zl1
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dearborn
Posts: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellow Bullet View Post
Why ask a question if you will automatically argue for one side? I have yet to drag my car so I don't know but what I do know is that the smartest people when it comes to our Camaros are the people on here. Just my $00.02
I'm not being argumentive, and yes that's y I'm asking Camaro owners this question. Why provide input when it is out of left field. You went bias in the rear and left a huge front radial on there and wonder why you got shoot out of the lane. I may be asking about a radial mix but at least it's a 8" tire not 11". I want opinions from people with experience in this. Not just everyone telling me what they hear.

Also everyone wants to say match it with a bias, we'll find me a 7" wide bias 17" tire and I will. I would rather run my radial that can support the weight then a 4" tire that's maxed out before I even get in the car.

Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
Zl1dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 06:46 AM   #9
Zl1dad
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2013 zl1
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dearborn
Posts: 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellow Bullet View Post
Why ask a question if you will automatically argue for one side? I have yet to drag my car so I don't know but what I do know is that the smartest people when it comes to our Camaros are the people on here. Just my $00.02
Also if you don't have input why chime in just to say that you don't have input. I don't need opinions I need experience. Bc the guys that DO run this combo say it's not a very big issue. It's the guys that don't run this combo who are saying who unsafe it is and how bad they sway is... But guys running this say sway isn't very bad. So I'm going to take more of what the guys running this combo into consideration.

Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
Zl1dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2018, 07:14 AM   #10
Yellow Bullet
 
Yellow Bullet's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Chevy Sonic RS 1.4T
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Riverview, Florida
Posts: 327
Don't ask the question if you have your mind set...
__________________
2015 Camaro RS/SS SIM LS3- Sold

2017 Sonic Mosaic Black RS 1.4T
Yellow Bullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2018, 05:14 PM   #11
Pro Stock John
Writer
 
Pro Stock John's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 7,216
I ran 10.9@125 1.47 with 215 radials up front on 17x7s and 28x17 hoosier slicks in back. Drove fine.

But I think it depends on combo. If you had 20s up front it might not drive as nice.
__________________
PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY
Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I | Part II
13.15@106 1.95 | 100% Stock
12.37@112 1.85 | + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune
12.06@113 1.70 | + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune
11.84@115 1.59 | + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts
10.90@125 1.47 | + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800
Pro Stock John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2018, 05:48 PM   #12
Stefano
 
Stefano's Avatar
 
Drives: 6th Gen NicKey Camaro & others.
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Loves Park, Illinois
Posts: 492
It depends on many factors. After years of experience and watching guys with that combo hit the wall. I won't take the chance with any of my cars.
Stefano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2018, 04:01 PM   #13
Zl1dad
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 2013 zl1
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dearborn
Posts: 253
Well today I got my own opinion on the combo. Starting at 26psi in the rear and aired down to 18 throughout the day. Did not have much issues at all. Like the guys said before, grow some balls lol. Only time it got a little bad was when I got loss of the line and when I got it straightened out it started tracking to the left and I tried to correct it about 3/4 down the track and felt some sway so I let out and it was fine.

Thanks for the opinions everyone, I don't think it's as bad as it's lead to believe. Thanks for looking out for my safety though guys. Hope to see some at camarofest.

Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
Zl1dad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2018, 01:18 PM   #14
Pro Stock John
Writer
 
Pro Stock John's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 7,216
I think a radial skinny and bias rear is better than stock front and bias rear.

Stock front is heavy and has more rolling resistance.
__________________
PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY
Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I | Part II
13.15@106 1.95 | 100% Stock
12.37@112 1.85 | + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune
12.06@113 1.70 | + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune
11.84@115 1.59 | + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts
10.90@125 1.47 | + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800
Pro Stock John is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.