So what do I have to do to beat a 5.0

[GraysonPeace]

Guys at the track are 99% of the time good ole boys...car guys. The next time a Mudstain or anything else hurts your feelings, go talk to them! Sometimes you'll find they are more willing to help you get better than not. Maybe you just need more seat time..it would be like playing golf, softball or any other sport. Don't take your ball and go home, just keep working at it. don't go to race and win, go to get better...way more fun..its a hobby, you don't get paid to win!

[goodtime]

Originally Posted by YellowGTO

There has to be more to this. No way your only mods are "Converter, full exhaust and just a hair more gear 3.31" You either have more power or less unsprung mass.

Click on each vid to look at the description on YouTube. Every mod done to the car is listed for each pass.

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

122 trap speed with full exhaust and a tune Anyone who believes that crap needs to come back to the real world. He forgot to mention all the wieght reduction and what ever bull crap he is hidding, whats up with all the tint on the windows, mabey see you cant see how gutted the car is! Its funny that there are only a few shop cars running times like that, but any given day at the track they are running 12s with those mods!

Lol! I live in Texas. This is a DD car for me. It get's over 100* here in the Summer. There is your reason for tinted windows.....

The car has fully functional A/C, stereo, power windows/locks, cruise control, etc. The only interior changes are removal of passenger seat and rear seats for the track along with the spare tire and jack. Same stuff anyone who hits the track typically does. The long block is 100% bone stock and is emissions legal. Yes the new exhaust has cats. I am affiliated with no shop and do all my own wrenching.

I enjoy the haters. We make believers out of skeptics every time we run.

[molsonbrador]

Originally Posted by GraysonPeace

Guys at the track are 99% of the time good ole boys...car guys. The next time a Mudstain or anything else hurts your feelings, go talk to them! Sometimes you'll find they are more willing to help you get better than not. Maybe you just need more seat time..it would be like playing golf, softball or any other sport. Don't take your ball and go home, just keep working at it. don't go to race and win, go to get better...way more fun..its a hobby, you don't get paid to win!

Well put. Damn pollen has me cranky.

[oldlugs]

Originally Posted by cam99

Nope Mustangs are touched by the hand of God. With a drop in filter they run 10's. everyone should buy one, you an idiot if you don't. Gives you an unsafe 4 hour boner. makes grown men fear you, women want you, and kids want to be you. faster than the spaceshuttle and 0-breaking the sound barrier in 2.7 seconds. Oddly however still can't outrun their own ugly.

Finally - Someone who knows what they're talking about.
Better to be ugly and loved..

[sschevybear11]

Originally Posted by goodtime

Click on each vid to look at the description on YouTube. Every mod done to the car is listed for each pass.



Lol! I live in Texas. This is a DD car for me. It get's over 100* here in the Summer. There is your reason for tinted windows.....

The car has fully functional A/C, stereo, power windows/locks, cruise control, etc. The only interior changes are removal of passenger seat and rear seats for the track along with the spare tire and jack. Same stuff anyone who hits the track typically does. The long block is 100% bone stock and is emissions legal. Yes the new exhaust has cats. I am affiliated with no shop and do all my own wrenching.

I enjoy the haters. We make believers out of skeptics every time we run.

Sorry, not a hater just a lover of truth and you are passing off a scienced out combo for a "just a few mods" car. This seems to be a new 5.0 phenomenon.
I noticed in your vids you had an '11 GT that ran 13.6 at 107 stock, whats up with that, should have been 12.3's at 114?
Who guts their car when going to the track? Nobody I know unless they want to dump a bunch of weight, run a number and then leave out the fact. Kind of like you let on in your first post.

[LimaCharlie]

Originally Posted by YellowGTO

There has to be more to this. No way your only mods are "Converter, full exhaust and just a hair more gear 3.31" You either have more power or less unsprung mass.

The tire/wheel package on the car is a big part of the 1/4 mile times too. Aside from the reduced unsprung weight, the diameter of the rear tires look like they're about 2" shorter compared to stock tires. This deepens the rear end gear ratio (numerically higher), which helps with acceleration.
The pizza cutters in the front reduce rotational mass, which furthermore help with acceleration in a straight line.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by goodtime

I'd line up against you anytime.....

Tune and tires/wheels.


Converter, full exhaust and just a hair more gear (stock 3.15 to a 3.31):



I have NEVER seen a bolt on 5th gen. come close to these times at our track. Best I have come across is a 12.4 in similar DA as the 11.3x passes.

Ok, let's see...you have 2-300 lbs advantage on my car, 3:73 gears to my 3:27s, factory headers, slicks, skiinnys on the front and other bolt ons as well, YOU TAKE THE SEATS OUT?????, you've seen my 363 dynoed HP run it's best run ever at 12.4 and now you're going to challenge me to a race???? Typical Mustang fanboy and troll....I would, of course run you, but the outcome, duhhhhh, kinda seems inevitable, but not everyone could figure that out. But, I'll bet there are some other C5 guys who would take you up on that challenge as well and show you a thing or two. My post was only intended to show the OP that not all Mustangs run low 12s and 11s and that there are some who can't get into the 12s. You, of course, want him to believe it's the easiest thiing in the world for a 5.0 to run 11s. Ok...NP, all it takes is money. 55 Chevys have been running 11s for 40 years...so what does that prove???

[AZ MSCL]

Originally Posted by jcAUss

I am so disappointed in my car right now. I was at the track today and lightly modded 5.0s were running 12.2 to 12.7. Check my sig for my mods. L99 obviously

I was running 12.9x all day. I won 1 race but cut .3 better light. They were trapping 112 to 114.

Why is everyone so surprised and defensive about this? The new 5.0 is fast, right out of the box - add a couple simple bolt-ons and it's even faster. If you want to beat the 5.0, mod your car. Otherwise, go have fun at the track. Win or lose, racing is a blast.

[goodtime]

Originally Posted by sschevybear11

Sorry, not a hater just a lover of truth and you are passing off a scienced out combo for a "just a few mods" car. This seems to be a new 5.0 phenomenon.
I noticed in your vids you had an '11 GT that ran 13.6 at 107 stock, whats up with that, should have been 12.3's at 114?
Who guts their car when going to the track? Nobody I know unless they want to dump a bunch of weight, run a number and then leave out the fact. Kind of like you let on in your first post.

I did have an '11 and took it out in the hottest part of the summer to make some baseline runs. Bone stock as it drove off of the lot. No traction tends to have an impact on the times along with Summer temps. You will also notice I took that car into the mid 11's with bolt-on's in Summer temps. 11.63@118 in ~2,500' DA to be exact.

The 11.88 pass was made with the tune being the only power adder. The rest of the drivetrain was bone stock down to the cats, mufflers and 3.15 gear. Again, the car is far from "gutted" as you imply. We are talking a daily driver. It had less than 1K miles at the time of said pass.

The 11.3x passes were made on the same evening. The only power mods done compared to the 11.88 pass were a Pypes full exhaust and I did test a CAI on the car to compare to the stock airbox which netted almost nothing. The 11.31 pass was with the stock airbox.

Everything else done to the car were supporting mods such as the converter, 3.31 gear, rear control arms, driveshaft loop, and aluminum D/S. Not a bit of it has any impact on it being a DD.

I will only be adding weight to it moving forward with items such as a roll bar, trans blanket, c-clip eliminators, etc. It will be legal to run on any IHRA/NHRA track meeting all the safety rules.

You are right about the combo. I research and spend my money carefully.

I have yet to max out all the bolt-ons. Next up will be the Boss intake and shooting for 10's N/A all running 93 octane Shell pump gas.

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Ok, let's see...you have 2-300 lbs advantage on my car, 3:73 gears to my 3:27s, factory headers, slicks, skiinnys on the front and other bolt ons as well, you've seen my 363 dynoed HP run it's best run ever at 12.4 and now you're going to challenge me to a race???? Typical Mustang fanboy and troll....I would, of course run you, but the outcome, duhhhhh, kinda seems inevitable, but not everyone could figure that out. But, I'll bet there are some other C5 guys who would take you up on that challenge as well and show you a thing or two. My post was only intended to show the OP that not all Mustangs run low 12s and 11s and that there are some who can't get into the 12s. You, of course, want him to believe it's the easiest thiing in the world for a 5.0 to run 11s. Ok...NP, all it takes is money. 55 Chevys have been running 11s for 40 years...so what does that prove???

.....as my point was that there are also 5.0's out there running much better times vs. what you imply they run. Sure there are 5th gen Camaro's that are quicker/faster than me but they have way more mods done to include everything from heads, cam, intake, power adders and as much weight removal as possible.

BTW - I am running a 3.31 rear gear as was posted earlier, not a 3.73 as you imply.

Regarding getting a new 5.0 in the 11's....the auto's are much easier to do vs. the manual trans cars as you saw with my car however it takes far less to get there vs. the 5th gen. Camaro. <--------I know I use to own a 2010 1SS.

Anywho, I wasn't posting to troll or incite but to clear the air on the Mustang side. There are many mis-perceptions out there.

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by AZ MSCL

Why is everyone so surprised and defensive about this? The new 5.0 is fast, right out of the box - add a couple simple bolt-ons and it's even faster. If you want to beat the 5.0, mod your car. Otherwise, go have fun at the track. Win or lose, racing is a blast.

I think guys wouldnt be as defensive if they actually went to go look at fast times that people are posting on actual mustang forums, and not only from guys who come here on a mission to "set the record straight". They don't even have to sign up just look. 5.0s can and will go 11s N/A just typically with a few more mods that what is being claimed here...

No need to cherry pick youtube videos, no speculation, or guesswork, or anything... There are more than enough scanned time slips to look at with people explaining their mods and how they got there.

But as Levar Burton from Reading Rainbow said, "you don't have to take my word for it."

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Rock36

I think guys wouldnt be as defensive if they actually went to go look at fast times that people are posting on actual mustang forums, and not only from guys who come here on a mission to "set the record straight". They don't even have to sign up just look. 5.0s can and will go 11s N/A just typically with a few more mods that what is being claimed here...

No need to cherry pick youtube videos, no speculation, or guesswork, or anything... There are more than enough scanned time slips to look at with people explaining their mods and how they got there.

But as Levar Burton from Reading Rainbow said, "you don't have to take my word for it."

Meh... it's a lot easier to start a thread here with the word Mustang in it and let them come tell us how fast they are...

no need to go trolling...

[TOYBOY]

Originally Posted by goodtime

Anywho, I wasn't posting to troll or incite but to clear the air on the Mustang side. There are many mis-perceptions out there.

Clear the air on the Mustang side? Isn't this a Camaro forum?

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by Rock36

I think guys wouldnt be as defensive if they actually went to go look at fast times that people are posting on actual mustang forums, and not only from guys who come here on a mission to "set the record straight". They don't even have to sign up just look. 5.0s can and will go 11s N/A just typically with a few more mods that what is being claimed here...

No need to cherry pick youtube videos, no speculation, or guesswork, or anything... There are more than enough scanned time slips to look at with people explaining their mods and how they got there.

But as Levar Burton from Reading Rainbow said, "you don't have to take my word for it."

Busting out Levar Burton quotes...oooh yeah!!

Maybe the 'stanks are a little faster stock for stock, but our, uh, engines are still bigger

[scrming]

Originally Posted by E.T.

Busting out Levar Burton quotes...oooh yeah!!

Maybe the 'stanks are a little faster stock for stock, but our, uh, engines are still bigger

remember it's not the size, it's how you use it... says the guy with the dinky little 3.5 liter....