Shno's House of Z

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by mlee

We have new Z stuff on the way..

...and speaking of Z cars, this was in my driveway today. We escorted Mindz and the 2016 1SS down to the Space Center.

Absolutely my favorite color in matte black...

Attachment 755557

drool

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by mlee

so I assume he found the grille in there.

yep, while I supervised

[JusticePete]

Who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the Soldier, not the reporter

Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the Soldier, not the poet

Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer

Who has given us freedom to protest.

It is the Soldier, not the lawyer

Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the Soldier, not the politician

Who has given us the right to vote.

It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,

Who serves beneath the flag,

And whose coffin is draped by the flag,

Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

Charles M. Province
Copyright 1970, 2005

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

yep, while I supervised

You seem to be making a habit of that!

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by mlee

so I assume he found the grille in there.

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

You seem to be making a habit of that!

As soon as you are done working, grab a beer. And get me another one.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by mlee

We have new Z stuff on the way..

...and speaking of Z cars, this was in my driveway today. We escorted Mindz and the 2016 1SS down to the Space Center.

Absolutely my favorite color in matte black...

Attachment 755557

Very cool!

Did you say new Z stuff???

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Number 3

I have high hopes sales will prove my worries to be unfounded. But it is clear from the reviews, consistently, that the better coupe might be the Mustang while the Camaro is the far better performance car. And that may lead to the best Z cars EVER.

From what's discernable in the 6Gen Z** cars pics it's definitely helping with the look of the 6Gen over the SS. And the performance should be crazy.

[JusticePete]

Who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the Soldier, not the reporter

Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the Soldier, not the poet

Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer

Who has given us freedom to protest.

It is the Soldier, not the lawyer

Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the Soldier, not the politician

Who has given us the right to vote.

It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,

Who serves beneath the flag,

And whose coffin is draped by the flag,

Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

Charles M. Province
Copyright 1970, 2005

My father, Peter Daniel Basica, is holding the American flag.

[Scarrzz]

Great reminder, Pete.

With a hearty thank you to all service members, past and present.


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As for the back seat of the Sixth Gen, I prefer petite co-eds anyway.

[2cnd chance]

So what are we guessing regards the ZL1 & Z/28?

[mlee]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Very cool!

Did you say new Z stuff???

Meaning we have to have a Z something for the 6th Gen.

My bet is they keep it the same and do a ZL1 and Z/28, but what is really going to mess things up is 50th Anniversary. I'd hate to jump on the 1st Z car and then 3 months later they come with a special edition 50th Z.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

So what are we guessing regards the ZL1 & Z/28?

My guess? The Z/28 will continue on as the 'Camaro Z06', and come with the LT4 V8 just as the C7 Z06 does. The ZL1 will cease to exist.

My hope? GM continues along the same lines as they did with the 5th gen, doing both an high-powered (LT4) ZL1 and a moderately powerful (but track focused) Z/28 with a naturally aspirated V8.



If they go with door #2, here's whats floating around in my head right now. The LS7 is (was) a great engine, but its biggest flaw is its cost. Part of the problem is limited use, but I'm thinking that its unique block didn't help things. Well, that and the fact that it was hand built.

What if they made a new high performance NA V8 a little smaller than the LS7 ... where the extra displacement (over an LT1) came from taking an LT1 block, then stroking it out to 6.7 or 6.8L? That would be about the same stroke length (actually slightly less) as the LS7 but it shouldn't require a brand new block. Spin it out to 7 grand like the LS7, though you might not need to go that high. Give it a slightly more aggressive tuning than the LT1 and I can see it producing somewhere around 550 hp with around 500 ft-lbs of torque.


By cutting a few corners, the cost should come down substantially. It would certainly cost more than an LT1, not much though, but should be far less expensive than an LS7 -especially if they produce it on a regular assembly line. It could find a home in Corvettes (or Camaros) as an independent engine upgrade or as part of gap-bridging model between the regular C7 and the Z06. A slight variant could even do well as a truck engine, perhaps as an alternative or replacement for the 6.2 in the HD trucks. And while we're at it ... I don't think there are many Escalade buyers that would be opposed to having another 100 hp or so in the big daddy Caddy.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by mlee

Meaning we have to have a Z something for the 6th Gen.

My bet is they keep it the same and do a ZL1 and Z/28, but what is really going to mess things up is 50th Anniversary. I'd hate to jump on the 1st Z car and then 3 months later they come with a special edition 50th Z.

The 50th, Yes that is something to think about.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

My guess? The Z/28 will continue on as the 'Camaro Z06', and come with the LT4 V8 just as the C7 Z06 does. The ZL1 will cease to exist.

My hope? GM continues along the same lines as they did with the 5th gen, doing both an high-powered (LT4) ZL1 and a moderately powerful (but track focused) Z/28 with a naturally aspirated V8.



If they go with door #2, here's whats floating around in my head right now. The LS7 is (was) a great engine, but its biggest flaw is its cost. Part of the problem is limited use, but I'm thinking that its unique block didn't help things. Well, that and the fact that it was hand built.

What if they made a new high performance NA V8 a little smaller than the LS7 ... where the extra displacement (over an LT1) came from taking an LT1 block, then stroking it out to 6.7 or 6.8L? That would be about the same stroke length (actually slightly less) as the LS7 but it shouldn't require a brand new block. Spin it out to 7 grand like the LS7, though you might not need to go that high. Give it a slightly more aggressive tuning than the LT1 and I can see it producing somewhere around 550 hp with around 500 ft-lbs of torque.


By cutting a few corners, the cost should come down substantially. It would certainly cost more than an LT1, not much though, but should be far less expensive than an LS7 -especially if they produce it on a regular assembly line. It could find a home in Corvettes (or Camaros) as an independent engine upgrade or as part of gap-bridging model between the regular C7 and the Z06. A slight variant could even do well as a truck engine, perhaps as an alternative or replacement for the 6.2 in the HD trucks. And while we're at it ... I don't think there are many Escalade buyers that would be opposed to having another 100 hp or so in the big daddy Caddy.

I'm hoping for door 2 as well. I've always said don't fix what's not broken. The 5Gen formula was a winner, they need to continue down that path.
A 550hp, 7,000 rpm, 3,700 Z/28...oh yeah!