09-29-2009, 11:17 PM | #141 | |
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If you are happy with your setup then why Excellent numbers BTW Whipple guys please feel free to open a new thread if you have an update or new pics. This one is turning into a roots vs screw comparison JM |
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09-29-2009, 11:40 PM | #142 | |
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both are excellent power adders. its just that one has proven time and time again to be a superior product when u want to make high hp and be efficient. i've been a fan of PD blowers for years. i just like twinscrews better cuz theyve proven time and time again to out do a maggie. not saying the tvs is a bad unit. but as stated no replacement for displacement. |
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09-30-2009, 06:43 AM | #143 | |
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Can't wait to see the Whipples come out, so members can get a fair comparison of how the twin screws are going to perform. If they are superior to the TVS while running low boost on stock cubes (which is where the vast majority of members will be), alot of members are gonna be ticked because alot of TVS's are out there now.
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09-30-2009, 07:31 AM | #144 |
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Can't wait to see the numbers, but even on the FORD forums you can see what is being stated here just isn't true. You can't compare what is going on in the 03/04 community and GT500 community to a stock internals LS3 setup. You will not be running the high boost where the larger displacement blower will outshine a smaller displacement blower. Does the likes of whipple and KB with larger blowers have more potential? YES. They may also be a little more efficeient than the TVS, but at low boost, you will NOT see gigantic gains of 50+ HP difference, and if you do, it is fabricated. I woudln't expect real world applications to show this.
You see this all the time even in higher boost applications: MY KB is better than your Whipple .. My Whipple is better than your KB. You can find REAL data to support both arguments. So is one really better than the other? Either way, the community will win as there will be more choices available and that is NOT a bad thing. Honestly .. I hope I am wrong and at 6psi and the same setups as a maggie Camaro we see 600+ rwhp machines with the great TQ curve we love from these top mounts. What I am really waiting for though is to see a fully forged setup running some high boost!
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09-30-2009, 07:59 AM | #145 |
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09-30-2009, 09:16 AM | #146 | |
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Test 1 at 6-7 psi, and test 2 at 12 psi Or have two test motors, a stock L99 for test 1, then for test 2, the vendors install their blower on a modified 9/1 comp LS3 motor and pulley it for 12 psi Get 3 or 4 positive displacement blowers, as well as a Vortech and Procharger Record all the important parameters, and that would be a test I’d pay money to read.
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09-30-2009, 09:57 PM | #147 | |
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Then I woke up from my day dream and realized if I did that I would probably be divorced, AND we still don't have an oil pan for that motor...LOL LOL
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09-30-2009, 10:05 PM | #148 | |
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The oil pan is for the TBSS not the Camaro Only bad part about your statement about being the fastest L99 is that if you put the stroker in it, it wouldn't be a L99 anymore. You might just have to shot for the fastest 10 camaro. Last edited by 1sickta; 10-01-2009 at 06:44 AM. |
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10-01-2009, 06:09 AM | #149 | |
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plus u should be more clear in what u want as well as jannetty racing, now i didnt read all the details of the intake test. but when testing they should not tune cuz one could argue stating that one was tuned better then the other. so w/ the supercharger unit u would want to use the tune that whipple and magna provide or else results can easily be skewed. i'm sure there will be pleanty of companies out that have installed a magna 2300 and 1900 that will install a whipple and i'm sure they'll be able to give u their honest opinion. also keep in mind every dyno is different. u never answered my questions as to what u dynoed before the 1900 install and if it was on the same dyno. also if the cam u listed in ur sig was installed at the same time. cuz if the cam was installed then ur claims of dynoing as much as the 2300 would be skewed. also keep in mind that smaller supercharger is probably in its perfect efficiency range at 8 psi thus making same power as the 2300. i'm sure if the 2300 were to get a few more psi. the results would be huge cuz then it would be in its greatest efficiency point. thats going by the tvs performance maps, dont know what pulley size ur using. |
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10-01-2009, 12:31 PM | #150 |
It seems like you guys are getting all your ducts in a row, but when will you have info and units available for us?
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10-01-2009, 12:35 PM | #151 |
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10-02-2009, 06:53 AM | #152 |
Thanks, I missed that.
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10-02-2009, 08:56 AM | #153 | |
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10-02-2009, 10:17 AM | #154 | |
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as far as test units u got a point. completely forgot about that. who knows what they do. this will be a good test. cant wait to see the results. i read a lil bit of the intake thread. read first several pages but it started getting annoying reading a certain someones posts, he keeps contradicting himself. i've known him on several different forums. thats why i stopped reading. |
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