Front Brake pad "Roller skates?" - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

iosigma · 05-30-2015, 10:32 PM

Okay guys,
I'm looking to replace my pads and rotors on my 2011 SS. When i got websites some of the front pads have the "Roller skates" on the top of the pad and some do not. I imagine these "wheels" on the upper side of the caliper are for vibration dampening or something. However, when I look at some pads online, they don't have these on the pads themselves. I know the a lot of times you'll have generic pis when your buying something online, but I guess I'm a little concerned if my new pads don't have them. Ive been looking at a Powerstop 1 click pad and rotor combo kit from rockauto and some other places ( mostly for the price). Heres a description and a link to the page.

POWER STOP Part # K5603 Z23 Evolution Sport; Incl. 13.99 in. Front & 14.37 in. Rear Silver Zinc Plated Cross-Drilled And Slotted Rotors w/ Z16 Ceramic Scorched Pads; Incl. Hardware Click Info for full list of components.
Front And Rear

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...nid=510&jpid=5

Any input would be welcome. I guess I need to know if the "roller skates" are needed on the from or not.

jrhagen · 05-30-2015, 10:37 PM

Most people switch to the non roller skate pads to fit 17" wheels.

Vroom_vroom · 05-30-2015, 11:36 PM

That's the pads that came with my kit from brakemotive.they don't say it in the listing on eBay but they are the pads that they ship with. (280 for all)Awesome set up for the price. I took the grinder to my skates so I could fit em under my wheels. No issues with them after brake, had to drive em for a week then they smoothed out.

backeddy · 06-03-2015, 10:48 PM

LOL, well these roller skates make sure there is NO WAY the pads could come out with the wheels mounted on the car.....

Vroom_vroom · 06-04-2015, 01:04 AM

That's a crock, many of the aftermarket pads don't come with them along with the brembo pads. They where not designed this way from the beginning nor are they on any other car that uses the same set up. They where added for noise reduction. If you can deal with the occasional brake squeal possibility, cut em.

BLACK67 · 06-04-2015, 05:23 PM

Early cars came from the factory with the weights.

Eli · 06-04-2015, 09:48 PM

Roller skates were GMs failed attempt to reduce squeal (vibration) in the pad. High Performance brakes squeal especially if you track the car.

Follow this link and it goes into detail about lubing the brake system which would work with or without roller skates on your pads.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189890

backeddy · 06-04-2015, 10:29 PM

I know, I was being funny....they are an attempt at resonant frequency control...FAIL!

Vroom_vroom · 06-05-2015, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by backeddy

I know, I was being funny....they are an attempt at resonant frequency control...FAIL!

Doh! Lack of sleep.....

Marty Z · 06-26-2019, 12:57 PM

I know this is an old thread but I want to resurrect it to ask a question. I have been looking into upgrading my brakes to either the CTS-V calipers or the SS calipers. I can get SS calipers used on ebay for around $400. But I have been hesitant since I would have to upgrade my wheels to 20" first.

So here is my question, I know that the CTS-V calipers will work with 19" wheels but the SS calipers will only work with 20" or bigger because of the "roller skates".

The SS calipers being 4 piston in front instead of 6 piston like the CTS-V, whould they work with the standard 18" wheels WITHOUT the "roller skates"? Has anyone tried this?

VTSummit · 09-29-2019, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty Z

I know this is an old thread but I want to resurrect it to ask a question. I have been looking into upgrading my brakes to either the CTS-V calipers or the SS calipers. I can get SS calipers used on ebay for around $400. But I have been hesitant since I would have to upgrade my wheels to 20" first.

So here is my question, I know that the CTS-V calipers will work with 19" wheels but the SS calipers will only work with 20" or bigger because of the "roller skates".

The SS calipers being 4 piston in front instead of 6 piston like the CTS-V, whould they work with the standard 18" wheels WITHOUT the "roller skates"? Has anyone tried this?

The pads have the roller skates- not the caliper. You can get pads with or without them. The CTS-V 6 pots are bigger than the SS or early CTS 4 pots- none of them are going to fit most 18" wheels, but I hear of some people who had some luck finding something that worked. Usually the back of the wheel spokes hit the side of the caliper more than any other fitment issue. I think Tire Rack has a few 18's they claim fit the SS. I run 19" wheels in the winter from a V6 5th gen and they clear the caliper by 2mm when running a 3mm spacer.

The skates were Brembo's development and wasn't a failure at all. They work. Early SS's had adhesive wheel weights stuck to the caliper to try to stop squeal. Low tech, and didn't work well enough. Brembo designed the skates and they found they not only reduced/eliminated squeal (I've used them for years- not one squeal) but they had a few other unintended benefits. If you don't want skates- don't get 'em. I use them and prefer them.

ZEN357 · 09-30-2019, 06:39 AM

I would go with the Power Stop Z26 instead of the Z23. Just my preference.

https://www.jegs.com/c/Brakes-Drivet...29592&sbv=true

lemontwist · 09-30-2019, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEN357

I would go with the Power Stop Z26 instead of the Z23. Just my preference.

https://www.jegs.com/c/Brakes-Drivet...29592&sbv=true

05-30-2015, 10:32 PM	#1
iosigma Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS, 1991 Camaro RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 46	Front Brake pad "Roller skates?" Okay guys, I'm looking to replace my pads and rotors on my 2011 SS. When i got websites some of the front pads have the "Roller skates" on the top of the pad and some do not. I imagine these "wheels" on the upper side of the caliper are for vibration dampening or something. However, when I look at some pads online, they don't have these on the pads themselves. I know the a lot of times you'll have generic pis when your buying something online, but I guess I'm a little concerned if my new pads don't have them. Ive been looking at a Powerstop 1 click pad and rotor combo kit from rockauto and some other places ( mostly for the price). Heres a description and a link to the page. POWER STOP Part # K5603 Z23 Evolution Sport; Incl. 13.99 in. Front & 14.37 in. Rear Silver Zinc Plated Cross-Drilled And Slotted Rotors w/ Z16 Ceramic Scorched Pads; Incl. Hardware Click Info for full list of components. Front And Rear http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...nid=510&jpid=5 Any input would be welcome. I guess I need to know if the "roller skates" are needed on the from or not.

05-30-2015, 11:36 PM	#3
Vroom_vroom The gritos pollo!!! Drives: Like a idiot Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,215 View My Garage	Front Brake pad "Roller skates?" That's the pads that came with my kit from brakemotive.they don't say it in the listing on eBay but they are the pads that they ship with. (280 for all)Awesome set up for the price. I took the grinder to my skates so I could fit em under my wheels. No issues with them after brake, had to drive em for a week then they smoothed out. __________________ ______ If you don't stop how can they give you a ticket?-The Big Tuna___ '12 1Ls Camaro; Slp loud mouth I\|maganflow x-pipe\|Injen long ram intake\|brembo brake upgrade\| russell s.s. lines\|2LT polished 19's\|billet 5mm spacers\|tinted tail lights&markers\|pdmi\|billet c. can\| '13 Avenger R/T '77 T/A 6.6;, draining my wallet.

06-04-2015, 01:04 AM	#5
Vroom_vroom The gritos pollo!!! Drives: Like a idiot Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,215 View My Garage	That's a crock, many of the aftermarket pads don't come with them along with the brembo pads. They where not designed this way from the beginning nor are they on any other car that uses the same set up. They where added for noise reduction. If you can deal with the occasional brake squeal possibility, cut em. __________________ ______ If you don't stop how can they give you a ticket?-The Big Tuna___ '12 1Ls Camaro; Slp loud mouth I\|maganflow x-pipe\|Injen long ram intake\|brembo brake upgrade\| russell s.s. lines\|2LT polished 19's\|billet 5mm spacers\|tinted tail lights&markers\|pdmi\|billet c. can\| '13 Avenger R/T '77 T/A 6.6;, draining my wallet.

06-04-2015, 05:23 PM	#6
BLACK67 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 930	Early cars came from the factory with the weights. __________________ SPi Performance Stage 3 package *Comp Cam* PHADT FE4 ZL Stg.3 VMAX CNC Spiral Ported Throttle Body Dynatech LT headers, Hi flow Cats MBRP 3" 304 stainless X-pipe exhaust Fastlane true CAI. Barton shifter

05-30-2015, 10:37 PM	#2
jrhagen Banned Drives: Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Posts: 2,701	Most people switch to the non roller skate pads to fit 17" wheels.

06-03-2015, 10:48 PM	#4
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	LOL, well these roller skates make sure there is NO WAY the pads could come out with the wheels mounted on the car.....

06-04-2015, 09:48 PM	#7
Eli Drives: 2011 Convertible SS/RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Claverack, NY Posts: 71 View My Garage	Roller skates were GMs failed attempt to reduce squeal (vibration) in the pad. High Performance brakes squeal especially if you track the car. Follow this link and it goes into detail about lubing the brake system which would work with or without roller skates on your pads. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189890

06-04-2015, 10:29 PM	#8
backeddy Banned Drives: 2011 Boxster Spyder (best car ever) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,529	I know, I was being funny....they are an attempt at resonant frequency control...FAIL!

06-26-2019, 12:57 PM	#10
Marty Z Drives: 2015 Bright Yellow 2LS Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: NJ Posts: 69	I know this is an old thread but I want to resurrect it to ask a question. I have been looking into upgrading my brakes to either the CTS-V calipers or the SS calipers. I can get SS calipers used on ebay for around $400. But I have been hesitant since I would have to upgrade my wheels to 20" first. So here is my question, I know that the CTS-V calipers will work with 19" wheels but the SS calipers will only work with 20" or bigger because of the "roller skates". The SS calipers being 4 piston in front instead of 6 piston like the CTS-V, whould they work with the standard 18" wheels WITHOUT the "roller skates"? Has anyone tried this?

09-30-2019, 06:39 AM	#12
ZEN357 Drives: 1991 Z/28 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 411	I would go with the Power Stop Z26 instead of the Z23. Just my preference. https://www.jegs.com/c/Brakes-Drivet...29592&sbv=true