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102SSRSLS3 · 12-02-2021, 10:33 AM

First post here (I've lurked for quite a while):

This summer I bought a relatively low-mileage 2010 2SS LS3 bone stock with the exception of no mufflers (straight pipes from the axle back - all other factory exhaust components in place). It sounded great, but with a slight drone at around 1,600 RPM. It's a daily driver on a four-lane commute, so this is where I live most of the time (6th gear, 68-ish mph).

To rid myself of the slight drone, I had Borla S-Type mufflers installed (again, axle back). Sounded great when I picked it up and drove through town. When I got on the highway, however, the drone at speed was actually worse!

I called the shop to make sure he didn't remove the resonators (he's fond of doing that, after all) - nope, just installed the S-Types.

I've ordered a set of Borla Touring (axle-back) from RPI. Any thoughts / opinions on whether this will thin the drone? The wife and I'd love to vacation in this car, but that drone!

One other comment on the S-Types: they sound fantastic at any RPM other than the 1,500 - 1,750 range. The entire exhaust note dropped an octave or two over the no-muffler setup and they're ever so slightly quieter (except as noted). And those tips!

Ponchonutty · 12-02-2021, 02:02 PM

I had my car straight piped with x pipe, shorty headers, and solo cats. Sounded great with little drone with flowmaster axel backs. Then came the cam upgrade and the drone would make your ears bleed. Installed Solo performance j-pipe axel backs. It’s louder on the outside but zero drone inside

102SSRSLS3 · 12-02-2021, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponchonutty

I had my car straight piped with x pipe, shorty headers, and solo cats. Sounded great with little drone with flowmaster axel backs. Then came the cam upgrade and the drone would make your ears bleed. Installed Solo performance j-pipe axel backs. It’s louder on the outside but zero drone inside

Hadn't seen those. Looks like a great (acoustic) approach. Am I correct in understanding these run without (in place of) mufflers?

SSJ2 · 12-02-2021, 07:26 PM

Long tube headers , hi flo cats straight pipe all the way back. Tons of drone that was almost unbearable for long periods. Had a local exhaust shop put on adjustable jpipes and have zero drone now. They really work

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102SSRSLS3 · 12-03-2021, 11:36 AM

I ordered my S-Types in September and finally got them in November. RPI tried to cancel the Touring axle-back I had ordered but Borla had already shipped on the second day! We're trying to get all of that reversed...

I have contacted Solo about the possibility of buying J-pipes separately. I really like the difference the S-Types made in the exhaust tone (much lower and deeper). If I can add the J-pipes and get rid of the drone, it seems the best scenario.

SSkat · 12-03-2021, 02:16 PM

I had a S type catback before my Atak catback and the s type drones a lot more. S types have a great sound though.

Ponchonutty · 12-04-2021, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 102SSRSLS3

Hadn't seen those. Looks like a great (acoustic) approach. Am I correct in understanding these run without (in place of) mufflers?

You are correct. https://youtube.com/shorts/H-jJdiHzNOI?feature=share

102SSRSLS3 · 12-20-2021, 12:49 PM

Just back from the muffler shop where I had him install the Solo J-Pipes. I took a spin out of town to test the J-Pipes at speed - amazing! They really seem to work. The shop owner wanted a report after I'd driven it a week or so as he's really interested in the results. He had installed them one other time (on a thoroughly tuned Tahoe!).

I really appreciate the forum suggestions and help. I'll try to report back in after more testing.

102SSRSLS3 · 12-22-2021, 12:39 PM

Yep, a couple of days commuting and I'm calling this confirmed. Still has the Borla tone, but the drone is absolutely and markedly better. A worthwhile investment for a daily driver. Thank you, everyone!

SS_Dave · 12-29-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 102SSRSLS3

Yep, a couple of days commuting and I'm calling this confirmed. Still has the Borla tone, but the drone is absolutely and markedly better. A worthwhile investment for a daily driver. Thank you, everyone!

So what does your final/full setup look like front to back?

Dusk_2SS · 12-29-2021, 11:27 PM

Can't blame drone on S-types. I have Texas Speed LT headers, High Flo cats, Magnaflo X-pipe and Borla S-Type axel back and I have no drone.

Modernmusclecar · 12-30-2021, 11:15 AM

Drone come from mufflers....Never heard of anyone saying a Borlà had drone.

bkscott · 01-15-2022, 10:17 PM

Borlas definitely do drone. And it will get worse with a cam. I put the J pipes on mine and it took care of that. Before that highway trips were terrible, had to kep it in 5th to kill the drone.

12-02-2021, 10:33 AM	#1
102SSRSLS3 Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: NW of Skullbone TN Posts: 7	LS3 Borla S-Type First post here (I've lurked for quite a while): This summer I bought a relatively low-mileage 2010 2SS LS3 bone stock with the exception of no mufflers (straight pipes from the axle back - all other factory exhaust components in place). It sounded great, but with a slight drone at around 1,600 RPM. It's a daily driver on a four-lane commute, so this is where I live most of the time (6th gear, 68-ish mph). To rid myself of the slight drone, I had Borla S-Type mufflers installed (again, axle back). Sounded great when I picked it up and drove through town. When I got on the highway, however, the drone at speed was actually worse! I called the shop to make sure he didn't remove the resonators (he's fond of doing that, after all) - nope, just installed the S-Types. I've ordered a set of Borla Touring (axle-back) from RPI. Any thoughts / opinions on whether this will thin the drone? The wife and I'd love to vacation in this car, but that drone! One other comment on the S-Types: they sound fantastic at any RPM other than the 1,500 - 1,750 range. The entire exhaust note dropped an octave or two over the no-muffler setup and they're ever so slightly quieter (except as noted). And those tips! Last edited by 102SSRSLS3; 12-20-2021 at 12:50 PM.

12-02-2021, 02:02 PM	#2
Ponchonutty Drives: 2012 SS L99 Converible Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Washington, Ohio Posts: 606	I had my car straight piped with x pipe, shorty headers, and solo cats. Sounded great with little drone with flowmaster axel backs. Then came the cam upgrade and the drone would make your ears bleed. Installed Solo performance j-pipe axel backs. It’s louder on the outside but zero drone inside __________________ 2012 L99 Convertible SS Tooley Racing Stage 2 DOD delete, 3,200 stall converter, Shorty headers and custom stainless exhaust, CAI, and tune as mods

12-02-2021, 07:26 PM	#4
SSJ2 Drives: 2010 2SS CAMARO Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: CT Posts: 129 View My Garage	Long tube headers , hi flo cats straight pipe all the way back. Tons of drone that was almost unbearable for long periods. Had a local exhaust shop put on adjustable jpipes and have zero drone now. They really work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ BBK Long tube headers, Hi flo cats, straight pipe muffler delete with j-pipes. K+N CAI, Soler Performance Ported Throttle Body, Soler Performance Throttle Controller, Phantom Grill, MGW flatstick shifter. 3.91 Gears, Ported Rod Mod Intake, ZTA Spoiler, Rohana RC22 20x10 20x11.

12-29-2021, 11:27 PM	#11
Dusk_2SS Drives: 2013 Dusk Special Edition 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2017 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 125 View My Garage	Can't blame drone on S-types. I have Texas Speed LT headers, High Flo cats, Magnaflo X-pipe and Borla S-Type axel back and I have no drone. __________________

12-30-2021, 11:15 AM	#12
Modernmusclecar Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 820	Drone come from mufflers....Never heard of anyone saying a Borlà had drone. __________________ EPS CUSTOM GRIND CAM....K@N CAI....VMAX PTB.....FRANKENSTEIN STAGE 2 HEADS ...1 7/8 STAINLESS POWER CATTED LONGTUBE HEADERS...CORSA XTREME 3 INCH CATBACK.....CIRCLE D 3800 Pro Series stall...391 gears.....Ported/modded GPI intake .Forgestar drag pack with Mickey Thompson ET street drag radials AGP PERFORMANCE DYNO TUNED. 463 WHP 428 FTLBS TORQUE.

12-03-2021, 11:36 AM	#5
102SSRSLS3 Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: NW of Skullbone TN Posts: 7	I ordered my S-Types in September and finally got them in November. RPI tried to cancel the Touring axle-back I had ordered but Borla had already shipped on the second day! We're trying to get all of that reversed... I have contacted Solo about the possibility of buying J-pipes separately. I really like the difference the S-Types made in the exhaust tone (much lower and deeper). If I can add the J-pipes and get rid of the drone, it seems the best scenario.

12-03-2021, 02:16 PM	#6
SSkat Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 268	I had a S type catback before my Atak catback and the s type drones a lot more. S types have a great sound though.

12-20-2021, 12:49 PM	#8
102SSRSLS3 Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: NW of Skullbone TN Posts: 7	Just back from the muffler shop where I had him install the Solo J-Pipes. I took a spin out of town to test the J-Pipes at speed - amazing! They really seem to work. The shop owner wanted a report after I'd driven it a week or so as he's really interested in the results. He had installed them one other time (on a thoroughly tuned Tahoe!). I really appreciate the forum suggestions and help. I'll try to report back in after more testing.

12-22-2021, 12:39 PM	#9
102SSRSLS3 Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: NW of Skullbone TN Posts: 7	Yep, a couple of days commuting and I'm calling this confirmed. Still has the Borla tone, but the drone is absolutely and markedly better. A worthwhile investment for a daily driver. Thank you, everyone!

01-15-2022, 10:17 PM	#13
bkscott Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Grand Prairie, Texas Posts: 1,608 View My Garage	Borlas definitely do drone. And it will get worse with a cam. I put the J pipes on mine and it took care of that. Before that highway trips were terrible, had to kep it in 5th to kill the drone. __________________ 94 Firebird Formula (Drowned 08/30/05) 2010 IBM 2SS/RS 6M Arrived 3/25/10. ADM CAI, Borla Type S Cat Back, VMAX Ported TB, LG Short Throw Shifter, 1LE Shocks, Hotchkis Sway Bars, Whiteline Cradle Bushing Inserts, Custom Powdercoated ZL1's ,Michelin Pilot Supersports, Stainless Power Headers, Solo J Pipes, AAC LED Sidemarkers, ZL1 Rockers, SLP Splitter, ADM Stage II Cam,ZL1 Diffuser,Vitesse Throttle Controller.