Help needed with 20x10 & 20x11 Wheels - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

the13atman · 03-22-2021, 10:31 PM

I recently installed OE Creations 126BB-211223 Z28 style rims (20x10 front with +23mm offset and 20x11 rear with +43mm offset) with Pirelli PZero all-season tires (285/35 ZR20 front and 305/35 ZR20 rear) on my 2011 Camaro 1LT. The installation was done at a chevy dealership including the wheel alignment. After the installation, the ride hasn't been very smooth. The steering wheel has a lot of give in either direction and when driving over bumps/bumpy roads the steering wheel tends to move on its own easily. The guys at the dealership were claiming that the rims and the wheels are oversized for my car because it's the V6 model and that this was the reason for the poor driving. Does anyone have experience with these wheels specs? If so what was your experience? And also does it being a V6 have anything to do with it? Any help would be appreciated.

KillboyPowerhead · 03-23-2021, 06:25 AM

The wider tires will grab on to more imperfections on the road so you'll notice more bump steer and whatnot. The new wheels and/or tires may be heavier than the factory setup so there will be more momentum in the wheels/tires. The V6 uses hydraulic steering while the V8 uses electric - not sure how much of a difference this makes with what you're noticing but I wouldn't concern yourself with it. Nothing to worry about, you'll just get used to it

I put factory 20x9's on the front for a square setup and definitely notice the same thing when I first put the summers back on (winters are factory 20x8's all around and so are narrowing and lighter).

1JEWLDSSRS · 03-23-2021, 08:47 AM

Yea you will notice that a lot with wider wheels/tires. They have a tendacy to want to follow the ruts in the road where the center crown of the road is, it's called "tramlining", you will get used to it. Also due to the wheels/tires being much wider you will notice a bit more steering wheel play side to side as the tires are wider in the front from which you are used to, so they won't react as quickly as the "skinny' ones you had. And another note, you Camaro does not have electric assist steering, that wasn't until 2014. Nice wheels and enjoy the ride..

gtstorey · 03-23-2021, 09:28 AM

Might consider different alignment specs, although the stock castor setting is probably about maxed out. See aggressive street alignment
https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=544483 post #13.

the13atman · 03-23-2021, 10:54 PM

Ok seems like what you guys are saying kinda confirms what I've been seeing in my google searches lol. Just wanted to check in with the community, I appreciate the responses. Guess it's something I got to get used to. @gtstorey thanks for the recommendation I will look into that

hrpiii · 03-25-2021, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by the13atman

Ok seems like what you guys are saying kinda confirms what I've been seeing in my google searches lol. Just wanted to check in with the community, I appreciate the responses. Guess it's something I got to get used to. @gtstorey thanks for the recommendation I will look into that

what they all said is correct, especially the tracking in the ruts of the road. But you will get used to it pretty quickly.

Accord_boy619 · 03-25-2021, 09:19 PM

I just got those wheel on mine, but my tires are 275 40 20 Front and 315 35 20 rear. It think it rides fine, no real difference from stock, other it tends to follow the rutts on I95.

Bigdumogre · 03-26-2021, 06:40 AM

Just came in to say that’s a clean camaro

Valkyrie14 · 03-27-2021, 03:29 PM

Great timing of topic. I’m looking at 20x10s on front and 20x11 on back. Currently running stock SS wheels, which I think are 20x9 up front and 20x10 in back. I recently read the ZL1 setup is 10 in front and 11 in back. Pretty sure the wheel well is the same. Not sure about offset as I am trying to find rims that have both sizes.

steakmaker · 03-27-2021, 07:49 PM

Stock "SS" set up is 8 in. front and 9 in. rears

1JEWLDSSRS · 03-28-2021, 10:00 AM

Stock on the ZL1 and the 1LE and Z28 are 20x10 front, 20x11 rear with +23 front and +43 rear and will fit on your Camaro..MY FRIENDS 2014 SS with the Z28 wheels.

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phoenix78 · 03-28-2021, 06:05 PM

1JEWLD! OMG That photo is fantastic.

On topic, I've been considering similar wheel dimensions. Glad that threads like these exist.

Valkyrie14 · 03-28-2021, 06:52 PM

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Stock on the ZL1 and the 1LE and Z28 are 20x10 front, 20x11 rear with +23 front and +43 rear and will fit on your Camaro..MY FRIENDS 2014 SS with the Z28 wheels.

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1JEWLDSSRS · 03-28-2021, 06:54 PM

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1JEWLD! OMG That photo is fantastic.

On topic, I've been considering similar wheel dimensions. Glad that threads like these exist.

Here is mine in polished and cleared.

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03-23-2021, 06:25 AM	#2
KillboyPowerhead Drives: 2015 Z/22 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930	The wider tires will grab on to more imperfections on the road so you'll notice more bump steer and whatnot. The new wheels and/or tires may be heavier than the factory setup so there will be more momentum in the wheels/tires. The V6 uses hydraulic steering while the V8 uses electric - not sure how much of a difference this makes with what you're noticing but I wouldn't concern yourself with it. Nothing to worry about, you'll just get used to it I put factory 20x9's on the front for a square setup and definitely notice the same thing when I first put the summers back on (winters are factory 20x8's all around and so are narrowing and lighter). __________________ Overkill/Self Tuned; Mace Camshafts; K&N Typhoon Cold Air Intake; Ported 80mm Throttle Body/Intake Manifolds/Manifold Spacer; Solo Performance High-Flow Cats, Cat-back Exhaust; Vitesse Motorsports Throttle Controller; Elite Engineering E2 Catch Can; BC Racing BR Coilovers; JPSS Delrin Radius Rod Bushing Inserts, Sway Bars; Pegasus Aluminum Rear Cradle Bushings, Camber/Caster Plates; Z/28 Toe Links, Trailing Arms, Upper Control Arm Bushings, Rear Shock Mounts

03-23-2021, 08:47 AM	#3
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,402	Yea you will notice that a lot with wider wheels/tires. They have a tendacy to want to follow the ruts in the road where the center crown of the road is, it's called "tramlining", you will get used to it. Also due to the wheels/tires being much wider you will notice a bit more steering wheel play side to side as the tires are wider in the front from which you are used to, so they won't react as quickly as the "skinny' ones you had. And another note, you Camaro does not have electric assist steering, that wasn't until 2014. Nice wheels and enjoy the ride.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

03-26-2021, 06:40 AM	#8
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	Just came in to say that’s a clean camaro __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

03-27-2021, 03:29 PM	#9
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	Great timing of topic. I’m looking at 20x10s on front and 20x11 on back. Currently running stock SS wheels, which I think are 20x9 up front and 20x10 in back. I recently read the ZL1 setup is 10 in front and 11 in back. Pretty sure the wheel well is the same. Not sure about offset as I am trying to find rims that have both sizes. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

03-28-2021, 10:00 AM	#11
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,402	Stock on the ZL1 and the 1LE and Z28 are 20x10 front, 20x11 rear with +23 front and +43 rear and will fit on your Camaro..MY FRIENDS 2014 SS with the Z28 wheels. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

03-22-2021, 10:31 PM	#1
the13atman Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: New York Posts: 7	Help needed with 20x10 & 20x11 Wheels I recently installed OE Creations 126BB-211223 Z28 style rims (20x10 front with +23mm offset and 20x11 rear with +43mm offset) with Pirelli PZero all-season tires (285/35 ZR20 front and 305/35 ZR20 rear) on my 2011 Camaro 1LT. The installation was done at a chevy dealership including the wheel alignment. After the installation, the ride hasn't been very smooth. The steering wheel has a lot of give in either direction and when driving over bumps/bumpy roads the steering wheel tends to move on its own easily. The guys at the dealership were claiming that the rims and the wheels are oversized for my car because it's the V6 model and that this was the reason for the poor driving. Does anyone have experience with these wheels specs? If so what was your experience? And also does it being a V6 have anything to do with it? Any help would be appreciated. Attached Images

03-23-2021, 09:28 AM	#4
gtstorey Drives: 2010 Camaro SS2,L99, LSA SC Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 2,143	Might consider different alignment specs, although the stock castor setting is probably about maxed out. See aggressive street alignment https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=544483 post #13.

03-23-2021, 10:54 PM	#5
the13atman Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: New York Posts: 7	Ok seems like what you guys are saying kinda confirms what I've been seeing in my google searches lol. Just wanted to check in with the community, I appreciate the responses. Guess it's something I got to get used to. @gtstorey thanks for the recommendation I will look into that

03-25-2021, 09:19 PM	#7
Accord_boy619 Drives: 2015 Camaro SS \| 2006 Silverado LBZ Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Palm Bay FL Posts: 9	I just got those wheel on mine, but my tires are 275 40 20 Front and 315 35 20 rear. It think it rides fine, no real difference from stock, other it tends to follow the rutts on I95.

03-27-2021, 07:49 PM	#10
steakmaker Drives: '10 Camaro SS,Jeep Commander Hemi Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cicero,NY Posts: 567	Stock "SS" set up is 8 in. front and 9 in. rears

03-28-2021, 06:05 PM	#12
phoenix78 Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS (A6 Ashen Gray) Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 47	1JEWLD! OMG That photo is fantastic. On topic, I've been considering similar wheel dimensions. Glad that threads like these exist. __________________ Mod list: GPI SS3 camshaft (VVT delete), ZL1 Fuel Pump, FIC 60 lb injectors, Tru-Cool 40k tranny cooler, Circle D 3600 triple disc (billet flexplate), GPI Rod Mod, Bo White ported TB, Variant Helium wheels, Continental ECS 02 tires, CAI cold air intake, Kooks 1 7/8" LTH w/ high flow cats, Ridetech HQ coilovers, BMR sway bars, BMR delrin subframe bushings, Hendrix offset poly diff bushings, Borla S-Type axle-back exhaust, Holley EFI Fuel Rails, Elite Engineering E2 catch can, Umbra LED Taillights, Kenwood DMX9707S head unit, some minor interior/exterior appearance mods.