i can beat a mustang 2011 with my L99 with this tools?

[camaroSS_and_proud]

hi guyz i have l99 camaro 2010 with jba short header and volant air intake i have a chance to beat AT MUSTANG 2011?

[TT Sedan]

Yes drivers race

[mikeSS]

is it going to be a rolling race, drag race. and what transmission is the stang

[Mr CLuTcH]

Nah you'd still loss; stock the L99's are at least 30 to 40rwhp down from the LS3s, you gonna need a little more. Like "long tube headers, exhaust, CAI, and a tune" to wrap it up. THEN you'd probably beat the 5.0. Drivers race on the strip, but L99 all the way-from a roll.

Been there done that.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by TT Sedan

Yes drivers race

Numbers don't mean sh_t once the rubber meets the road.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Numbers don't mean sh_t once the rubber meets the road.

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Nah you'd still loss; stock the L99's are at least 30 to 40rwhp down from the LS3s, you gonna need a little more. Like "long tube headers, exhaust, CAI, and a tune" to wrap it up. THEN you'd probably beat the 5.0. Drivers race on the strip, but L99 all the way-from a roll.

Been there done that.

I don't know why you always say that. The L99 is just as quick if not quicker to 60MPH than a LS3 and a LS3 is not much quicker to the quarter mile. A few mods on a L99 and it is just as quick as the LS3.

Drivers race.

[SWAT 79]

Probably not no. You could take a 2010, but not a 2011, auto or stick.

[BlaSSt Off]

Originally Posted by tom692010

Tell that to someone who has a LS3 launch down pat. Auto take no talent. You can stop talking now.....

They gotta convince themselves the auto was a good choice some how right?

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Numbers don't mean sh_t once the rubber meets the road.

I disagree. If the guy with the faster car drives as good or better than the guy with the slower car, the faster car always wins. The only way for the slower car to win is if the driver out-drives the guy in the faster car. That's one reason I love racing faster cars than mine, if I win I know I was the better driver.

[macwest]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Probably not no. You could take a 2010, but not a 2011, auto or stick.

I disagree both are evenly matched cars stock for stock. Comes down to driver. However, if the mustang owner bought the track pack 3.73 gears, suspension upgrade... then they would have the advantage.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

I don't know why you always say that. The L99 is just as quick if not quicker to 60MPH than a LS3 and a LS3 is not much quicker to the quarter mile. A few mods on a L99 and it is just as quick as the LS3.

Drivers race.

Wow, why do L99 owners have to be such wishful-thinkers...

I'm not saying what I said about the L99 because I wanted to hurt your feelings, I own the car and race this thing pretty often, a stock L99 isn't faster than a stock LS3, end of story. I had to find that out the hard way, through experience, many times. Sure it hurt my feelings then because it made me feel like I bought the inferior car, but it was the truth, and accepting that fact has allowed me to gauge my cars performance and take the appropriate steps to make it faster.

The L99 IS faster to 60,....transmission/gearing advantage, but in the 1/4 mile, or anything beyond that, equal drivers, the LS3 wins. It's proven. The LS3 traps higher in the quarter, and the L99 has yet to even see the light of the fastest LS3 time of "12.5" while stock. I love my car,....a L99, but I'm just being realistic about what it can do. Go put a stock L99 against a new Mustang 5.0, drag race or from a roll, it'll get crushed, ....it will be several 10ths slower. Put a LS3 against a 5.0 and expect a drivers race.

And funny you bring up mods,.....my car is pretty well modified for what I want to do-go faster/race, and currently, it's entirely faster than a stock LS3 or some even lightly modified ones, but if you slap on the same modifications to an LS3, it will be putting down waay more power to the wheels.

Have you honestly checked out some of the L99 builds around here? Sometimes it makes me wish I did buy the LS3,.....put headers, exhaust, cai, and a tune on the L99 and you'd be close to 400 rwhp, very close,.....put those same mods on a LS3 and you'd be WELL OVER the 400rwhp mark. I believe the L99's weakness lies in it's cam profile and a few other minor things. If this were not the case, it would be easily be putting down similar power to the LS3, not 30-40 hp below it.

But if you put the right cam in a L99, NOW you can make some big power. It's what I had to do,....although I had to go pretty aggressive, the car makes a ridiculous amount of hp for ME to drive around with, it's loud as hell, very fast, and other people love it. Look I'm not putting down the L99, I love it, but I'm just being a realist.

OP, with your current set of modifications, in all honestly I do not think you would beat a stock 5.0, it's just not enough. Get a long tube header system with exhaust, cai, and a tune, -then your ready.

[WadeWilson]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Wow, why do L99 owners have to be such wishful-thinkers...

I'm not saying what I said about the L99 because I wanted to hurt your feelings, I own the car and race this thing pretty often, a stock L99 isn't faster than a stock LS3, end of story. I had to find that out the hard way, through experience, many times. Sure it hurt my feelings then because it made me feel like I bought the inferior car, but it was the truth, and accepting that fact has allowed me to gauge my cars performance and take the appropriate steps to make it faster.

The L99 IS faster to 60,....transmission/gearing advantage, but in the 1/4 mile, or anything beyond that, equal drivers, the LS3 wins. It's proven. The LS3 traps higher in the quarter, and the L99 has yet to even see the light of the fastest LS3 time of "12.5" while stock. I love my car,....a L99, but I'm just being realistic about what it can do. Go put a stock L99 against a new Mustang 5.0, drag race or from a roll, it'll get crushed, ....it will be several 10ths slower. Put a LS3 against a 5.0 and expect a drivers race.

And funny you bring up mods,.....my car is pretty well modified for what I want to do-go faster/race, and currently, it's entirely faster than a stock LS3 or some even lightly modified ones, but if you slap on the same modifications to an LS3, it will be putting down waay more power to the wheels.

Have you honestly checked out some of the L99 builds around here? Sometimes it makes me wish I did buy the LS3,.....put headers, exhaust, cai, and a tune on the L99 and you'd be close to 400 rwhp, very close,.....put those same mods on a LS3 and you'd be WELL OVER the 400rwhp mark. I believe the L99's weakness lies in it's cam profile and a few other minor things. If this were not the case, it would be easily be putting down similar power to the LS3, not 30-40 hp below it.

But if you put the right cam in a L99, NOW you can make some big power. It's what I had to do,....although I had to go pretty aggressive, the car makes a ridiculous amount of hp for ME to drive around with, it's loud as hell, very fast, and other people love it. Look I'm not putting down the L99, I love it, but I'm just being a realist.

OP, with your current set of modifications, in all honestly I do not think you would beat a stock 5.0, it's just not enough. Get a long tube header system with exhaust, cai, and a tune, -then your ready.

Well said. It wasn't until I ported my heads and swapped cams until I really felt my L99 woke up.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Wow, why do L99 owners have to be such wishful-thinkers...

I'm not saying what I said about the L99 because I wanted to hurt your feelings, I own the car and race this thing pretty often, a stock L99 isn't faster than a stock LS3, end of story. I had to find that out the hard way, through experience, many times. Sure it hurt my feelings then because it made me feel like I bought the inferior car, but it was the truth, and accepting that fact has allowed me to gauge my cars performance and take the appropriate steps to make it faster.

The L99 IS faster to 60,....transmission/gearing advantage, but in the 1/4 mile, or anything beyond that, equal drivers, the LS3 wins. It's proven. The LS3 traps higher in the quarter, and the L99 has yet to even see the light of the fastest LS3 time of "12.5" while stock. I love my car,....a L99, but I'm just being realistic about what it can do. Go put a stock L99 against a new Mustang 5.0, drag race or from a roll, it'll get crushed, ....it will be several 10ths slower. Put a LS3 against a 5.0 and expect a drivers race.

And funny you bring up mods,.....my car is pretty well modified for what I want to do-go faster/race, and currently, it's entirely faster than a stock LS3 or some even lightly modified ones, but if you slap on the same modifications to an LS3, it will be putting down waay more power to the wheels.

Have you honestly checked out some of the L99 builds around here? Sometimes it makes me wish I did buy the LS3,.....put headers, exhaust, cai, and a tune on the L99 and you'd be close to 400 rwhp, very close,.....put those same mods on a LS3 and you'd be WELL OVER the 400rwhp mark. I believe the L99's weakness lies in it's cam profile and a few other minor things. If this were not the case, it would be easily be putting down similar power to the LS3, not 30-40 hp below it.

But if you put the right cam in a L99, NOW you can make some big power. It's what I had to do,....although I had to go pretty aggressive, the car makes a ridiculous amount of hp for ME to drive around with, it's loud as hell, very fast, and other people love it. Look I'm not putting down the L99, I love it, but I'm just being a realist.

OP, with your current set of modifications, in all honestly I do not think you would beat a stock 5.0, it's just not enough. Get a long tube header system with exhaust, cai, and a tune, -then your ready.