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mkmgraham · 01-15-2020, 05:31 AM

Thanks for the add admins!

I just purchased a 2013 2SS, blue with silver stripes Friday and FREAKING LOVE IT! 100% stock, so it is very quiet. I am currently leaning towards the Borla S-Type as the happy medium. Don't want anything annoying loud, but it needs to sound like a muscle car. I will disable the AFM probably via local tuner. I think axle back is all I want to do. Headers maybe a few years in the future due to the cost. Any opinions on the Borla S-type? Does this system cause any drone? Any other systems I should look in to?

Thanks in advance!!

Matt, Dayton OH

Avenging Orange · 01-15-2020, 08:26 AM

You can buy a good set of headers for the same price and actually gain something from it. Just saying.

Bigdumogre · 01-15-2020, 08:29 AM

If you want just sound get a axle back - get some great sound and not spend a lot. Personally if you plan on doing a full exhaust I would do a car back now and then long tubes with high flow cats afterwards.

mkmgraham · 01-15-2020, 10:01 AM

Recommendations on headers that are affordable? I am not opposed to them, just see a lot of Kooks fans and those are over $1K without the rest of the exhaust.

mkmgraham · 01-15-2020, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdumogre

If you want just sound get a axle back - get some great sound and not spend a lot. Personally if you plan on doing a full exhaust I would do a car back now and then long tubes with high flow cats afterwards.

Looking for just sound now. What axle back would you suggest?

Thanks for the response!

Kelly@PCMofNC · 01-15-2020, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mkmgraham

Recommendations on headers that are affordable? I am not opposed to them, just see a lot of Kooks fans and those are over $1K without the rest of the exhaust.

True, but they fit well and being stainless, they will look nice for years to come. We have installed some off brands here and while the part may be cheaper, they take much longer to install as you might have to clearance them, etc. Sometimes the flanges aren't true, etc. A used set of Kooks would be best for someone on a budget

That will bolt up to your factory exhaust. You can have an exhaust shop cut out the resonators, that will make for a good sound + good performance from the headers as well.

But, to answer your original question, the Borla is a nice exhaust also with a good tone to it.

Avenging Orange · 01-15-2020, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mkmgraham

Recommendations on headers that are affordable? I am not opposed to them, just see a lot of Kooks fans and those are over $1K without the rest of the exhaust.

For true enlightenment, one must read the ancient scrolls.

My OBX headers w/cats were $600. Bolted right up. Zero issues. Been on the car since 2012.
Point is, you gain sound AND performance.
I'm speaking from experience. Most people who start with cat back/axle back and later add headers, are back here asking how do I eliminate drone or how to quiet things down.
My advice, headers w/cats on stock exhaust and go from there.
Good luck.

*mlee* · 01-15-2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mkmgraham

Looking for just sound now. What axle back would you suggest?

Thanks for the response!

Since you mention axle back, I would highly recommend MBRP.

Greenhornet2 · 01-15-2020, 10:32 AM

Speed engineering headers, catless if you want to save money, or high flows, S type will probably be where you want to be. Corsa I think sound good too but I only have heard my Ataks in person and they are loud and raspy. Even when I had only the catback before the SC it was pretty load under WOT, had some popcorn pops under decal too.

gunchamp · 01-15-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mkmgraham

Recommendations on headers that are affordable? I am not opposed to them, just see a lot of Kooks fans and those are over $1K without the rest of the exhaust.

Speed engineering for cheap and they are a really good header. Honestly imo, the kooks ect are over priced. Not saying they arent good headers, but headers should not cost more than the damn exhaust. Speed engineering fit very well, are stainless and have a very thick flange. Very good quality header. I think they are only $300. I have them and couldnt be happier. I'll vote for corsa extreme. Also run that. Zero drone anywhere, quiet at cruise and absolutely crazy at wot

pyroguy · 01-15-2020, 02:01 PM

Some people experience some drone with Borla S type exhaust, but not all. IMO you can't beat Solo's Mach XL catback for sound and lack of drone.

racesloth · 01-15-2020, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Since you mention axle back, I would highly recommend MBRP.

I love my MBRP 3" with ARH LT's

mkmgraham · 01-15-2020, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelly@PCMofNC

True, but they fit well and being stainless, they will look nice for years to come. We have installed some off brands here and while the part may be cheaper, they take much longer to install as you might have to clearance them, etc. Sometimes the flanges aren't true, etc. A used set of Kooks would be best for someone on a budget

That will bolt up to your factory exhaust. You can have an exhaust shop cut out the resonators, that will make for a good sound + good performance from the headers as well.

But, to answer your original question, the Borla is a nice exhaust also with a good tone to it.

I never thought about bolting new headers to my existing exhaust. Thanks!

SSkat · 01-15-2020, 04:38 PM

I started with headers and im glad i did.

01-15-2020, 05:31 AM	#1
mkmgraham Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 115	NewB Looking for Exhaust Opinions! Thanks for the add admins! I just purchased a 2013 2SS, blue with silver stripes Friday and FREAKING LOVE IT! 100% stock, so it is very quiet. I am currently leaning towards the Borla S-Type as the happy medium. Don't want anything annoying loud, but it needs to sound like a muscle car. I will disable the AFM probably via local tuner. I think axle back is all I want to do. Headers maybe a few years in the future due to the cost. Any opinions on the Borla S-type? Does this system cause any drone? Any other systems I should look in to? Thanks in advance!! Matt, Dayton OH Attached Images

01-15-2020, 08:26 AM	#2
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	You can buy a good set of headers for the same price and actually gain something from it. Just saying. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

01-15-2020, 10:01 AM	#4
mkmgraham Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 115	Recommendations on headers that are affordable? I am not opposed to them, just see a lot of Kooks fans and those are over $1K without the rest of the exhaust. __________________ 2013 2SS Blue Ray Metallic/Silver stripes, black Interior. Halo conversion, Diode Dynamics grill lighting, LED interior and fog lights. Sundown 8" DVC, Altrend 300.1 Amp, Handmade side-mount box. Soon to be BBK Headers and hi-flow cats.

01-15-2020, 10:32 AM	#9
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Speed engineering headers, catless if you want to save money, or high flows, S type will probably be where you want to be. Corsa I think sound good too but I only have heard my Ataks in person and they are loud and raspy. Even when I had only the catback before the SC it was pretty load under WOT, had some popcorn pops under decal too. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

01-15-2020, 02:01 PM	#11
pyroguy Started#gottalovethatblue Drives: ABM #831 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: TN Posts: 6,918 View My Garage	Some people experience some drone with Borla S type exhaust, but not all. IMO you can't beat Solo's Mach XL catback for sound and lack of drone. __________________ '10 Camaro 2SS/RS \| Aqua Blue #831 of 3,903 \| Silver Stripes Check out my build thread

01-15-2020, 08:29 AM	#3
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	If you want just sound get a axle back - get some great sound and not spend a lot. Personally if you plan on doing a full exhaust I would do a car back now and then long tubes with high flow cats afterwards.

01-15-2020, 04:38 PM	#14
SSkat Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 268	I started with headers and im glad i did.