Swapping a ZL1 rear end into an SS - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

xjer22x · 11-25-2012, 06:20 PM

I have been looking around and can't find too much detail on this.

I read that there was a shop that succefully swapped it but I couldn't locate much detail on how it went or costs.

Any feedback would be cool. Thanks everyone.

sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors.

Synner · 11-25-2012, 06:41 PM

ADM was the shop, GMPP will be releasing a retrofit kit early next year which will likely be a better priced package deal.
22959394 for MT
22959395 for AT

xjer22x · 11-25-2012, 07:01 PM

Perfect. Thanks man.

sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors.

XCLR8 · 11-26-2012, 12:27 AM

I have a ZL1 diff that ADM Performance installed. I am loving it, it has zero vibration or noise issues. I tried the after market route with disappointing results.. IDK much about the install other than the 3" Magnaflow exhaust, had to be modified to fit around the huge ZL1 diff.. A different exhaust may Not require modification?? There may be other issues with installation?? ADM Performance does things first & can give all the install details. As far as cost? My guess is parts will be cheaper than the 9" aftermarket option. Different options available, is a good thing. Good Luck shopping.

xjer22x · 11-26-2012, 12:38 AM

Very good to hear. Realistically I am trying to decide whether I will be taking the 9 inch route or wait for the Retro kit gmpp will release. I like how beefy the zl1 diff is but worried on how it will hold up to 1000 hp

sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors.

XCLR8 · 11-26-2012, 12:55 AM

I'm far from 1000HP, but would love to know the results. There is only 1 way to know. I have a friend that has over 1000HP & has been thru several sets of after market axles.. At that power level, even the best can break & will break. Just be ready to replace parts.

xjer22x · 11-26-2012, 12:57 AM

Haha yeah I am always prepared. I am not there yet either, but my plans over the winter might just take me very close to it. So if rather get something with s closer capability compared to a stock one that will just explode when I try to move haha.

sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors.

Chris82xx · 11-29-2012, 03:04 PM

What does it take to swap to a ZL1 rear? If there much fabrication to it?

Jason P · 12-07-2012, 01:02 PM

I just bought a Zl1 diff looking to put into my 2ss I do know you have to change the rear cradle. I asked Maureen @ Rodgers to get me a price on axles hubs, driveshaft,and oil cooler. The parts I bought are out of wrecked car with 3000 on the clock. I hope they are in as good shape as stated we will see. The parts I am looking for were either wrecked or sold. Will keep you posted on the install.

toesuf94 · 12-07-2012, 01:14 PM

Jason P: Did you get the parts out of Pick A Part in Cleveland?

blazzin1 · 12-07-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason P

I just bought a Zl1 diff looking to put into my 2ss I do know you have to change the rear cradle. I asked Maureen @ Rodgers to get me a price on axles hubs, driveshaft,and oil cooler. The parts I bought are out of wrecked car with 3000 on the clock. I hope they are in as good shape as stated we will see. The parts I am looking for were either wrecked or sold. Will keep you posted on the install.

I don't know how this could be true. The Chevrolet Performance Catalog has a ZL1 HD Driveline Upgrade kit (Pg. 20) that includes the ZL1 Rear End, axles, and driveshaft, and all necessary hardware. No mention of needing a new cradle. Just sayin'..... In fact, I'm not even sure you would have to change the hubs???

RedRyder · 12-07-2012, 10:40 PM

What kind of loss power-wise, if any, is there from swapping in a ZL1 rear?

JusticePete · 12-07-2012, 11:01 PM

GM is selling the ZL1 as an upgrade kit and you do not have to change the sub-frame.

I would suggest installing Pedders EP1201HD sub-frame bushes and EP1167HD differential bushes with the ZL1 driveline upgrade.

MA2010SS · 12-08-2012, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

GM is selling the ZL1 as an upgrade kit and you do not have to change the sub-frame.

I would suggest installing Pedders EP1201HD sub-frame bushes and EP1167HD differential bushes with the ZL1 driveline upgrade.

That is exactly what I was waiting for

I was going to spend almost 2K on axles and driveshaft alone, but now this looks like a much better option

11-25-2012, 06:20 PM	#1
xjer22x Drives: 2010 rs/ss black # 10,308 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: hoffman estates, il Posts: 914 View My Garage	Swapping a ZL1 rear end into an SS I have been looking around and can't find too much detail on this. I read that there was a shop that succefully swapped it but I couldn't locate much detail on how it went or costs. Any feedback would be cool. Thanks everyone. sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors. __________________ SYCK SS BUILD JOURNAL- Click here

11-25-2012, 07:01 PM	#3
xjer22x Drives: 2010 rs/ss black # 10,308 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: hoffman estates, il Posts: 914 View My Garage	Perfect. Thanks man. sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors. __________________ SYCK SS BUILD JOURNAL- Click here

11-26-2012, 12:38 AM	#5
xjer22x Drives: 2010 rs/ss black # 10,308 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: hoffman estates, il Posts: 914 View My Garage	Very good to hear. Realistically I am trying to decide whether I will be taking the 9 inch route or wait for the Retro kit gmpp will release. I like how beefy the zl1 diff is but worried on how it will hold up to 1000 hp sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors. __________________ SYCK SS BUILD JOURNAL- Click here

11-26-2012, 12:57 AM	#7
xjer22x Drives: 2010 rs/ss black # 10,308 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: hoffman estates, il Posts: 914 View My Garage	Haha yeah I am always prepared. I am not there yet either, but my plans over the winter might just take me very close to it. So if rather get something with s closer capability compared to a stock one that will just explode when I try to move haha. sent from my galaxy s3. that would explain the errors. __________________ SYCK SS BUILD JOURNAL- Click here

11-29-2012, 03:04 PM	#8
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	What does it take to swap to a ZL1 rear? If there much fabrication to it? __________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

11-25-2012, 06:41 PM	#2
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	ADM was the shop, GMPP will be releasing a retrofit kit early next year which will likely be a better priced package deal. 22959394 for MT 22959395 for AT

11-26-2012, 12:27 AM	#4
XCLR8 Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carthage, TX Posts: 61	I have a ZL1 diff that ADM Performance installed. I am loving it, it has zero vibration or noise issues. I tried the after market route with disappointing results.. IDK much about the install other than the 3" Magnaflow exhaust, had to be modified to fit around the huge ZL1 diff.. A different exhaust may Not require modification?? There may be other issues with installation?? ADM Performance does things first & can give all the install details. As far as cost? My guess is parts will be cheaper than the 9" aftermarket option. Different options available, is a good thing. Good Luck shopping.

11-26-2012, 12:55 AM	#6
XCLR8 Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carthage, TX Posts: 61	I'm far from 1000HP, but would love to know the results. There is only 1 way to know. I have a friend that has over 1000HP & has been thru several sets of after market axles.. At that power level, even the best can break & will break. Just be ready to replace parts.

12-07-2012, 01:02 PM	#9
Jason P Drives: 2011 2ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: United States Posts: 272	I just bought a Zl1 diff looking to put into my 2ss I do know you have to change the rear cradle. I asked Maureen @ Rodgers to get me a price on axles hubs, driveshaft,and oil cooler. The parts I bought are out of wrecked car with 3000 on the clock. I hope they are in as good shape as stated we will see. The parts I am looking for were either wrecked or sold. Will keep you posted on the install. __________________ 2011 2ss Ram twin plate ceramic clutch, Texas speed 418 LS3 235 /243 .621 / .624 cam, ported and polished heads with dual springs,magnum push rods, Hotchkis race pack, Stainless Power long tube headers with no cats, Magna Flo competition exhaust, lpe fuel pump, magnuson supercharger with overdrive and port matched blower plate, IW 8 rib pullies, AEM meth kit, id 850 injectors, 3 bar map, halltech cai, zl1 rear diff

12-07-2012, 01:14 PM	#10
toesuf94 Drives: THR #11 E-force supercharged Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 4,746	Jason P: Did you get the parts out of Pick A Part in Cleveland? __________________ Cars and women are both going to give you problems...but you can pay somebody else to fix your car!

12-07-2012, 10:40 PM	#12
RedRyder Drives: 2010 VR 2SS/RS M6 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 499 View My Garage	What kind of loss power-wise, if any, is there from swapping in a ZL1 rear?

12-07-2012, 11:01 PM	#13
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	GM is selling the ZL1 as an upgrade kit and you do not have to change the sub-frame. I would suggest installing Pedders EP1201HD sub-frame bushes and EP1167HD differential bushes with the ZL1 driveline upgrade.