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Old 02-22-2016, 09:39 AM   #43
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Thanks for the responses. I feel like we are both on the same page. I will say, in regards to UConnect and Performance Pages...yes, it takes forever to load. That would be the menu that I would say makes you feel like the system is archaic because if you don't realize what all it's doing in the background you can feel like it's some old Windows 3.11 box or something. Either way, I agree with most of what you said and I think I'll just have to go drive them both again come April/May and figure out which I prefer.
Yep. I wish there was a car that had the strengths of both of them, but then the world would implode lol. It's really a shame to me the SS sedan is dying off without an update. An LT1 with the A8 SS sedan would amazing.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:11 PM   #44
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Thanks for the responses. I feel like we are both on the same page. I will say, in regards to UConnect and Performance Pages...yes, it takes forever to load. That would be the menu that I would say makes you feel like the system is archaic because if you don't realize what all it's doing in the background you can feel like it's some old Windows 3.11 box or something. Either way, I agree with most of what you said and I think I'll just have to go drive them both again come April/May and figure out which I prefer.
I'm suprised that your performance pages take forever to load. I hit mine and within 5 seconds everything is loaded.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:13 PM   #45
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Yep. I wish there was a car that had the strengths of both of them, but then the world would implode lol. It's really a shame to me the SS sedan is dying off without an update. An LT1 with the A8 SS sedan would amazing.
Totally agree!!!The icing on top would be to integrate some styling from the new camaro and applied it to the ss sedan.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:23 PM   #46
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I just wish the price point of entry on the SS sedan had not been in the 40K range.

I think a market is there for a RWD sedan starting at $31,000 with a A8 V6 and going up to $44,000 with a LT1 A8.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:25 PM   #47
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I just wish the price point of entry on the SS sedan had not been in the 40K range.

I think a market is there for a RWD sedan starting at $31,000 with a A8 V6 and going up to $44,000 with a LT1 A8.
Agreed, Dodge sells lots of Chargers.

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Old 02-22-2016, 03:49 PM   #48
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Agreed, Dodge sells lots of Chargers.

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Around 12,000 a month lately.

If GM wants Chevrolet to be the "fun performance" brand...they need something more engaging than grandpa cruisers (Impalas) and rental queens (Malibu).
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:53 PM   #49
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Out of all the modern cars I've had I got the most crowd appeal in my 2010 Challenger SRT8 than my 2006, 10, 13 Mustang GT or 2012 Camaro SS combined. Strangely enough I get quite a bit of crowd appeal with my 2014 SS Sedan, probably because most don't know what it is or think it's a Malibu and it has the meanest sounding startup stock than anything I've owned. The 2016 Camaro SS sounds almost as good. I see a 2017 Camaro in my future....
So you're saying the 2014 SS Sedan has a louder/meaner startup than a 2016 SS startup in track mode?

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Also can someone, please, please articulate why chargers and challengers "Can't put the power to the ground" and the back end breaks loose so often? Be very specific if you could and under what circumstances this happens

I see that statement everywhere. Youtube, other forums, this forum, and I've never seen anyone explain it thoroughly. Ever.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:09 PM   #51
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Also can someone, please, please articulate why chargers and challengers "Can't put the power to the ground" and the back end breaks loose so often? Be very specific if you could and under what circumstances this happens

I see that statement everywhere. Youtube, other forums, this forum, and I've never seen anyone explain it thoroughly. Ever.
From my understanding there are two main culprits:
1. Small diameter, poor traction tires (even the SRT/Hellcat 275s are too small for the torque).

2. The LX chassis dates back to 2002 (when MB developed the original the LX is based off)

The LX chassis is simply not rigid enough to cope with the powerplant. The 5 link rear setup just does not have strength with it's stamped steel units to cope and this produces excessive wheel hop. You can of course fix issues with tires, weak links and control arms with aftermarket units, but still be left with a chassis far too behind in technology compared to it's rivals.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:33 PM   #52
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So you're saying the 2014 SS Sedan has a louder/meaner startup than a 2016 SS startup in track mode?

Bolded what I'm commenting on
In track mode the 2016 Camaro SS may be a bit better. I checked out a 2016 SS Sedan yesterday with the bimode exhaust and it's startup isn't as of aggressive as the 2014 SS Sedans.
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:58 PM   #53
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:08 PM   #54
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From my understanding there are two main culprits:
1. Small diameter, poor traction tires (even the SRT/Hellcat 275s are too small for the torque).

2. The LX chassis dates back to 2002 (when MB developed the original the LX is based off)

The LX chassis is simply not rigid enough to cope with the powerplant. The 5 link rear setup just does not have strength with it's stamped steel units to cope and this produces excessive wheel hop. You can of course fix issues with tires, weak links and control arms with aftermarket units, but still be left with a chassis far too behind in technology compared to it's rivals.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:54 PM   #55
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interesting vid:
On here before, 392 isn't stock and it was Camaro drivers first time out if I recall. Still, 392 barely beat it lol...
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Old 02-23-2016, 10:30 AM   #56
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On here before, 392 isn't stock and it was Camaro drivers first time out if I recall. Still, 392 barely beat it lol...
Where else was this day old video posted(as of yesterday) ? There are two similar vids, maybe you are thinking of the other one.
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