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Old 09-06-2008, 07:58 PM   #15
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:01 PM   #16
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11.5 in the quarter is not a Z06 beater. Maybe a poorly driven Z06, but there are a lot of STOCK Z06s that will blow you out of the water if you are runnin 11.5s. I provided you the link of BONE STOCK Z06s that have run as fast as 10.9. Doesn't seem to me like you understand what I posted.
You really dont get it do you?? Maybe a few guys have run stock ZO6's under 11.5.. I haven't seen it.. I've been racing for years.. YOur comparing a $75k supercar that weighs 3100lbs w/ 2 seats to a $50k with light mods, 4000lb, 4 seater.. I'm still beating them. Dude c'mon wake up..
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:03 PM   #17
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You really dont get it do you?? Maybe a few guys have run stock ZO6's under 11.5.. I haven't seen it.. I've been racing for years.. YOur comparing a $75k supercar that weighs 3100lbs w/ 2 seats to a $50k with light mods, 4000lb, 4 seater.. I'm still beating them. Dude c'mon wake up..
dude i could beat you with a lincoln with a supercharged 572 in it and a better suspention and tranny. see my point? Duh, a modded car can beat a stock car
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:07 PM   #18
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There are now two Z06 VS GT500 threads.

Z06 VS GT500

Z06 vs GT500KR

Move this conversation here. Watch the language. Please.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:15 PM   #19
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You really dont get it do you?? Maybe a few guys have run stock ZO6's under 11.5.. I haven't seen it.. I've been racing for years.. YOur comparing a $75k supercar that weighs 3100lbs w/ 2 seats to a $50k with light mods, 4000lb, 4 seater.. I'm still beating them. Dude c'mon wake up..
Dude, YOU really don't get t. You've seen a small fraction of the Z06s that are really out there. I don't care how long you've been racing. Doesn't matter if you haven't seen it. I haven't seen a stock GT500 run faster than low 13s and I'm at the track all the time. What does that mean? Does it mean the GT500 doesn't run 12s cuz I haven't seen it? No. It just means I personally haven't seen it.

Step out of your tiny ignorant box and wake the hell up.

You're the one who brought up the fact that "you smoke Z06s with $1500 in mods" not me. You are comparing an inferior Mustang to a superior Z06. The Z06 outperforms supercars that cost $200k to $300k. $70k is a bargain for that car. Stock for stock the GT500 gets blown away in every single category except it has back seats.

Yes DURRRR you can mod a GT500 to make it faster than a Z06. DURRRR You can also mod the Z06, and the Z06 has a much easier starting point because it's over a second and 10 mph faster stock. And for the last time YOU ARE BEATING STOCK Z06s WITH POOR DRIVERS BEHIND THE WHEEL.

Get your head out of your @$$. You are completely clueless.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:18 PM   #20
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There are now two Z06 VS GT500 threads.

Z06 VS GT500

Z06 vs GT500KR

Move this conversation here. Watch the language. Please.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:24 PM   #21
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The GT500 is a fat, bloated, ugly, overpriced, underperforming piece of junk with a Fisher Price interior. Anyone who starts comparing it to a world class car like a Z06 is a moron.
fat and bloated? No. Only 76 pounds heavier than LS3 SS. And several inches smaller all around.
ugly? No. Looks are indeed subjective, but your pesonal taste is only a very minority opinion.
overpriced? Only because of the markups. Without the Shelby name it would command a lot less.
underperforming? No. Reported runs bone stock of 12.25 and 12.6 in recent magazines.
piece of junk? No. Give me a break! The stock block and heads can handle 1000hp+ with no mods.
Fisher Price interior? No. Plastic materials, yes. But styling is clearly retro and most people like it.
comparable to the Z06? No. The Z06 is a much superior performing car in many ways.
Captainbob a moron for reporting his personal experiences? No. Just a bit obnoxious about it.
HOTCIVIC a moron for his insulting comments? Clearly.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:30 PM   #22
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Look guys. Last warning. tone it down or I'll close it. There is nothing in this thread worth getting angry over.

I didn't create this thread so you can flame away.

Thanks.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:35 PM   #23
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fat and bloated? No. Only 76 pounds heavier than LS3 SS. And several inches smaller all around.
Yes. The LS3 SS is heavy too.

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ugly? No. Looks are indeed subjective, but your pesonal taste is only a very minority opinion.
Care to back that up with any proof? Yes looks are subjective. I don't think you can quantify what the majority or minority thinks of its looks.

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overpriced? Only because of the markups. Without the Shelby name it would command a lot less.
Overpriced because it's $42k for a Mustang.

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underperforming? No. Reported runs bone stock of 12.25 and 12.6 in recent magazines.
A supercharged 500 horsepower musclecar that only runs mid 12s from the factory? Yes, from the factory the GT500 is VERY underperforming. That's pitiful.

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piece of junk? No. Give me a break! The stock block and heads can handle 1000hp+ with no mods.
The powertrain is very nice. The rest of the car is junk.

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Fisher Price interior? No. Plastic materials, yes. But styling is clearly retro and most people like it.
Care to provide any proof of "most people"? Most people I know think the interior is junk. Retro or not. For a 40k car, it shouldn't be covered in the same plastic you find on a $19k car.

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comparable to the Z06? No. The Z06 is a much superior performing car in many ways.
Agreed.

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Old 09-06-2008, 08:36 PM   #24
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Look guys. Last warning. tone it down or I'll close it. There is nothing in this thread worth getting angry over.

I didn't create this thread so you can flame away.

Thanks.
Sorry, I'm done.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:45 PM   #25
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dude i could beat you with a lincoln with a supercharged 572 in it and a better suspention and tranny. see my point? Duh, a modded car can beat a stock car
Just a few bolt on mods otherwise I'm stock.. yes the GT500 is in the 8 second club blowing a 1500hp ZO6 away. go to Evolutionperformance.com and see for youself.. I'm not going to bow down to your name calling level..
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:26 AM   #26
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:16 AM   #27
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Yes. The LS3 SS is heavy too.



Care to back that up with any proof? Yes looks are subjective. I don't think you can quantify what the majority or minority thinks of its looks.



Overpriced because it's $42k for a Mustang.



A supercharged 500 horsepower musclecar that only runs mid 12s from the factory? Yes, from the factory the GT500 is VERY underperforming. That's pitiful.



The powertrain is very nice. The rest of the car is junk.



Care to provide any proof of "most people"? Most people I know think the interior is junk. Retro or not. For a 40k car, it shouldn't be covered in the same plastic you find on a $19k car.



Agreed.
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:16 PM   #28
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The only tracks that a GT500 can hang with a Z06 is a drag strip, even then it takes mods to do it. Take it to any other race track and the GT500 gets absolutely destroyed.
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