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Old 10-15-2012, 10:00 AM   #43
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I think it would be cool if they gave the camaro engine/hp options. I know they have the v6 and v8 now the zl1 which is supercharged but back in the day they sometimes had 4 different v8s to choose from all with different horsepower. It would set certain camaros apart and I would think be very cool.
That can get quite expensive. To save cost shared powertrains will be the norm.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:18 AM   #44
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I think it would be cool if they gave the camaro engine/hp options. I know they have the v6 and v8 now the zl1 which is supercharged but back in the day they sometimes had 4 different v8s to choose from all with different horsepower. It would set certain camaros apart and I would think be very cool.
Just like back in the day. but fuel regs are way to strict right now. But back in the day, you also had your choice of small blocks and big blocks. Not so anymore. It would be cool, but just not smart in todays auto world
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:11 PM   #45
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back in the day they sometimes had 4 different v8s to choose from all with different horsepower.
Actually, through the extended '69 Model Year, there were, at various times, ELEVEN V8's assembly line-available from the factory (one way or another):

Small Block
302-290 hp (Z/28-only)
307-200 hp (Base, late)
327-210 hp (Base, replaced late by 307)
350-255 hp LM1 (Base, optional)
350-300 hp L48 (SS-only)

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396-325 hp L35 (SS)
396-350 hp L34 (SS)
396-375 hp L78 (SS)
396-375 hp L78/L89 (SS-aluminum heads)
427-425 hp (L72) COPO 9561
427-430 hp (ZL1) COPO 9560

Combined with 2 different 6-cylinders, LOTS of choice...'way back when, but not today.

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Old 10-15-2012, 01:36 PM   #46
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I don't think it would be so expensive as it wouldn't be feasible Punch out a 4.8 by +1.45mm and you get a 302ci engine... Probably wouldn't happen though.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:15 PM   #47
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There are currently 4 versions of engines that use the "LS3" block/style: L76, L92, LS3 and LS9. Even though it has been said by others here many times about how producing an engine just for the camaro would not be in GM's current mindset I still disagree. The major R&D gets completed making just one engine but the use of the block/heads can be used to still make many variations of an engine. They do it all the time. If they made lets say a "302DI" it could be used in the Impala, Colorado, base full size using different cam/crank/manifold design/tuning to get the desired effect on said vehicle. it is the same thing they aleady do today, and its not really building a one-off engine that its been said that would cost an arm and a leg to put into the Camaro the specific cam/heads/crank etc. would just be specific to the Camaro. I would still rather see the 5.3L DI in there at 475hp though 7000 redline.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:32 PM   #48
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There are currently 4 versions of engines that use the "LS3" block/style: L76, L92, LS3 and LS9. Even though it has been said by others here many times about how producing an engine just for the camaro would not be in GM's current mindset I still disagree. The major R&D gets completed making just one engine but the use of the block/heads can be used to still make many variations of an engine. They do it all the time. If they made lets say a "302DI" it could be used in the Impala, Colorado, base full size using different cam/crank/manifold design/tuning to get the desired effect on said vehicle. it is the same thing they aleady do today, and its not really building a one-off engine that its been said that would cost an arm and a leg to put into the Camaro the specific cam/heads/crank etc. would just be specific to the Camaro. I would still rather see the 5.3L DI in there at 475hp though 7000 redline.
What makes you believe that the 5.3l is capable of putting out around 90 HP per liter compared to 69 HP per liter for the LS3? Is direct injection worth that kind of improvement?
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What makes you believe that the 5.3l is capable of putting out around 90 HP per liter compared to 69 HP per liter for the LS3? Is direct injection worth that kind of improvement?
Yes. The DI 3.6 V6 currently in the camaro is putting out about 90 hp/ L.

The non-DI 5.0 coyote with VVT is putting up around 84 hp /L and that's without DI.
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Yes. The DI 3.6 V6 currently in the camaro is putting out about 90 hp/ L.

The non-DI 5.0 coyote with VVT is putting up around 84 hp /L and that's without DI.
Those are both DOHC aren't they?
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Those are both DOHC aren't they?
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and that matters because?
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Because God (who has a degree in Mechanical Engineering) said so...it's the 11th Commandment.

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oh yeah I remember now!! I can't believe I forgot! lol
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and that matters because?
Because DOHC allows the use of multipe valves for exhaust and intake so that the engine flows more air which allows it to make more power.
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