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Dangeruss · 01-27-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Every other known factor was favorable for higher numbers. Sea level, temp, humidity, etc.............. Considering my set-up, and everyone elses numbers with same set-up, it's GOT to be the wheels.

You forgot about the PQ factor.

The PQ factors states that there will be drama in every aspect of any project relating to a Camaro or life in general. This can and will include diva-like tendencies, loss of time from work, physical removal of hair, discoloration and collapsing of hoses, use of four letter words and lost appendages.

WadeWilson · 01-27-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dangeruss

You forgot about the PQ factor.

The PQ factors states that there will be drama in every aspect of any project relating to a Camaro or life in general. This can and will include diva-like tendencies, loss of time from work, physical removal of hair, discoloration and collapsing of hoses, use of four letter words and lost appendages.

Well put Russ, but you forgot to mention injured appendages from sticking them in rotating wheels.

Dr Jkel · 01-27-2011, 10:01 AM

You guys are nuts, I almost spit coffee on my computer.

I was just curious as to why some get 500 and other don't. And wondering why my cammed car got 463 and a FI car got 471. Now I understand he has alot more torgue 476 to 438 and probably at lower rpm's but just trying to learns some new idearrs not criticizing

Dangeruss · 01-27-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Shardik2SS

Well put Russ, but you forgot to mention injured appendages from sticking them in rotating wheels.

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Originally Posted by Dangeruss

...and lost appendages.

PQ · 01-27-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dangeruss

You forgot about the PQ factor.

The PQ factors states that there will be drama in every aspect of any project relating to a Camaro or life in general. This can and will include diva-like tendencies(check), loss of time from work(check), physical removal of hair(check), discoloration and collapsing of hoses(check), use of four letter words(check) and lost appendages(skipped this time).

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Originally Posted by Shardik2SS

Well put Russ, but you forgot to mention injured appendages from sticking them in rotating wheels.

WadeWilson · 01-27-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dangeruss

I saw what you wrote but I felt it needed a more detailed description.

*GTAHVIT* · 01-27-2011, 10:39 AM

Emma, didn't you dyno your car with the stock wheels????

if so then this all makes sense... say 20 rwhp lost with 22's would put randy at 490....

Dr Jkel · 01-27-2011, 10:53 AM

So do you lose 20 hp by having 22's?

*GTAHVIT* · 01-27-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

So do you lose 20 hp by having 22's?

I think the proof is in the difference between Emma's and PQ's dynos.

But yes, it is well known that the unsprung weight of 22's Kills the RWHP...

Darth_Emma · 01-27-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Emma, didn't you dyno your car with the stock wheels????

if so then this all makes sense... say 20 rwhp lost with 22's would put randy at 490....

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

My car had the stock 20s on it for the dyno runs after the maggie was installed.

I actually hate that ^^^ emoticon. It's so snotty.

*GTAHVIT* · 01-27-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

I actually hate that ^^^ emoticon. It's so snotty.

smart alec...

Darth_Emma · 01-27-2011, 11:03 AM

The only way to know for sure is to put a set of stock wheels on a car and then swap for 22s and dyno it with each on the same dyno on the same day. I'm not sure how much a car loses with 22s, but I'm sure it loses some.

PQ · 01-27-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

if so then this all makes sense... say 20 rwhp lost with 22's would put randy at 490....

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Originally Posted by Dr Jkel

So do you lose 20 hp by having 22's?

I agree with Chris. I already know it loses excelleration time.

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Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

I think the proof is in the difference between Emma's and PQ's dynos.

But yes, it is well known that the unsprung weight of 22's Kills the RWHP...

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

I actually hate that ^^^ emoticon. It's so snotty.

Dangeruss · 01-27-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

The only way to know for sure is to put a set of stock wheels on a car and then swap for 22s and dyno it with each on the same dyno on the same day. I'm not sure how much a car loses with 22s, but I'm sure it loses some.

That's what I'm going to try and do, though I'll be dropping to 18s. I guess we'll see how big that difference is and see what we can deduce.

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Dr Jkel and MR. HYDE Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oxford, Alabama Posts: 4,375	You guys are nuts, I almost spit coffee on my computer. I was just curious as to why some get 500 and other don't. And wondering why my cammed car got 463 and a FI car got 471. Now I understand he has alot more torgue 476 to 438 and probably at lower rpm's but just trying to learns some new idearrs not criticizing

01-27-2011, 10:53 AM	#960
Dr Jkel and MR. HYDE Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oxford, Alabama Posts: 4,375	So do you lose 20 hp by having 22's?

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Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	The only way to know for sure is to put a set of stock wheels on a car and then swap for 22s and dyno it with each on the same dyno on the same day. I'm not sure how much a car loses with 22s, but I'm sure it loses some.