2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500 650 HP! How will it stack up against the ZL1?

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

would like to see a vid of that run to see how a "well modded GT500" can get beat my a stock SRT8. Probably traction issue + pot holes.

BTW, how did you get "stock SRT8" and "well modded GT500" just by reading the list you posted?

He did say 2007 GT500. They weren't that great in stock forum. Well modded could mean anything.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

Wow, just trying to make a point. Ill put it another way, if you are running in the Spectre 341 Challenge, I would want an IRS car to be able to handle the crappy road. Just like when the bone stock 2011 Challenger SRT8 beat a well modded 2007 GT500 in that race recently. Just as an example.

I fail to see how you can chalk up the win to IRS vs SRA when there are many IRS cars above and below the gt500. So you're telling me a stock challenger beat a Ferrari California, a vantage, a 'vette, and multiple cts-v's for whatever reason, but it beat the gt500 specifically because it has a SRA. . . that makes sense.

[SRT8Tech]

Originally Posted by motorhead

He did say 2007 GT500. They weren't that great in stock forum. Well modded could mean anything.

yeah but it had suspention work and many other mods done to it. Evan Smith was the driver by the way. Here is a vid of it.

[SRT8Tech]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

would like to see a vid of that run to see how a "well modded GT500" can get beat my a stock SRT8. Probably traction issue + pot holes.

BTW, how did you get "stock SRT8" and "well modded GT500" just by reading the list you posted?

Nope The SRT8 was bone stock AUTOMATIC car and the GT500 had Eibach springs, cold air kit, different front splitter, different rear wing, exhaust, different tires and some other stuff that I cant remember. I have videos of both of them by the way. I didnt get anything from the list I posted either. Just a list to show times. Here is a kind of stupid vid of the Challenger. Tell me its not stock...........................

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

Nope The SRT8 was bone stock AUTOMATIC car and the GT500 had Eibach springs, cold air kit, different front splitter, different rear wing, exhaust, different tires and some other stuff that I cant remember. I have videos of both of them by the way. I didnt get anything from the list I posted either. Just a list to show times. Here is a kind of stupid vid of the Challenger. Tell me its not stock...........................

I believe you.

[bmwdon]

HEY! I'm just so over black

Originally Posted by RedRooster

Sissyish?

Brother, you're the one driving the flamboyantly colored car.

I'm just sayin'.

[SRT8Tech]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

I fail to see how you can chalk up the win to IRS vs SRA when there are many IRS cars above and below the gt500. So you're telling me a stock challenger beat a Ferrari California, a vantage, a 'vette, and multiple cts-v's for whatever reason, but it beat the gt500 specifically because it has a SRA. . . that makes sense.

It was just an example. No big deal. Some of the drivers were not pro drivers by any means. BUT the guy in the GT500 is and the guy in the Challenger is. Once again, just an example.

[kbui]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

Much as I look forward to the production ZL1, I would not make any bold and absolute statements such as those made by Al O (keep in mind guys, he is an exec and damage control is a big part of his job...consequences can be dealt with later and back-pedaling is not an uncommon exec practice) and many of our members here regarding the supposed dominance of the ZL1 over the new GT500...making such statements just open yourself up to possibly eat your words and make you sound like a tool if the GT500 indeed bests the ZL1. About the ring time that a lot of our brothers here like to use as the primary weapon vs the GT500...I would say this (just like I said many months ago of Ford's plan for a 600+hp GT500), we will be in for a shock.

Perhaps your assessment is correct, but after working with people in the big 3 for many years and knowing this Farley a$$hat with his hates for GM (google his previous occasion of shooting off his mouth regarding bashing GM across the head with a baseball bat), there is no way he would have walked away when Chevy put up a challenge like that unless the GT500 can't compete with the ZL1 as of that moment. If he know he could, knowing Farley, he would have accepted the challenge in order to kick the ZL1 in the teeth. With his tail between his leg, that's all I need to know right now. Weeks and months from now, who knows what Chevy or Ford are going to do. We can speculate all we want, we JUST DON'T KNOW.

It's very competitive among the big 3 even though a lot of them are neighbors, best friends and even family members...I know because my best friend as well as my former college projects' partners worked for Ford when I was at GM. We always give each other a hard time but the rhetoric never escalated to the level Farley is spouting lately. This Farley character is really beyond the norm. I think his hates stemmed from the fact that the Camaro has been kicking his ass the last few years making his marketing job a bit harder.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by kbui

Perhaps your assessment is correct, but after working with people in the big 3 for many years and knowing this Farley a$$hat with his hates for GM (google his previous occasion of shooting off his mouth regarding bashing GM across the head with a baseball bat), there is no way he would have walked away when Chevy put up a challenge like that unless the GT500 can't compete with the ZL1 as of that moment. If he know he could, knowing Farley, he would have accepted the challenge in order to kick the ZL1 in the teeth. With his tail between his leg, that's all I need to know right now. Weeks and months from now, who knows what Chevy or Ford are going to do. We can speculate all we want, we JUST DON'T KNOW.

It's very competitive among the big 3 even though a lot of them are neighbors, best friends and even family members...I know because my best friend as well as my former college projects' partners worked for Ford when I was at GM. We always give each other a hard time but the rhetoric never escalated to the level Farley is spouting lately. This Farley character is really beyond the norm. I think his hates stemmed from the fact that the Camaro has been kicking his ass the last few years making his marketing job a bit harder.

With all the positive press for Ford coming from their press release about the 2013 gt500 unless they knew with absolute certainty they would win, meaning they had an enormous advantage which is doubtful, it would not be a good idea for them to accept. GM has a lot less to lose in that proposal. The momentum is in Ford's court right now whether it be justified or not, why would they risk losing that?

[mike25]

soooooo in short.

Zl1 is on track, ford is boasting a product that isnt out, and hasnt proven itself yet, and mopar once again is behind the ball, and the dodge guys here seem to be butt hurt about it..just like old times.

[SRT8Tech]

Originally Posted by mike25

soooooo in short.

Zl1 is on track, ford is boasting a product that isnt out, and hasnt proven itself yet, and mopar once again is behind the ball, and the dodge guys here seem to be butt hurt about it..just like old times.

Why would I be butt hurt because my car is faster than the SS and the 5.0 and the BOSS and close (only 2 tenths off) to the GT500??? In stock trim of course. And can drive in comfort without getting a cramp in my legs after 20 miles. Also I have a back seat you can use and get this, I have a trunk too....... And damn, my car looks Goooooooood. All in fun man.

[mike25]

Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

Why would I be butt hurt because my car is faster than the SS and the 5.0 and the BOSS and close (only 2 tenths off) to the GT500??? In stock trim of course. And can drive in comfort without getting a cramp in my legs after 20 miles. Also I have a back seat you can use and get this, I have a trunk too.......

congrats. Mine does too! I would certainly hope so, especially with the price tag and slightly bigger motor.

Anyways, not dogging them. I like the looks and think its a sick car..i think everyones just a little too tense in here. besides- dodge and chevy has there models pretty much rolling..ford doesnt yet..so until then, theyre blowing hot air.

[SRT8Tech]

Originally Posted by mike25

congrats. Mine does too! I would certainly hope so, especially with the price tag and slightly bigger motor.

You can fit something in that trunk??? And who you putting in the back seat???? Tattoo?? J/K. I kid, I really kid.................It must be all the monster energy drinks again. But really, I do love the Camaro. Im just a little too tall for them. And I really do need the bigger back seat.

[mike25]

Originally Posted by SRT8Tech

You can fit something in that trunk??? And who you putting in the back seat???? Tattoo?? J/K. I kid, I really kid.................It must be all the monster energy drinks again. But really, I do love the Camaro. Im just a little too tall for them. And I really do need the bigger back seat.

Im 6'1 and i fit fine, my daughter and her car seat love the back, and my bulky, pain in the ass stroller loves squeezing in the trunk. Anyways..i have a soft spot for mopar as well..as for ford, i cant really say the same thing. When i see a chally on the road- i think hey cool- when i see a stang i think- i wonder if this guys going to be a douche. I hope the gt500 competes like they say..will be good for both brands.