Somewhat related, Z06 class action lawsuit

flyinlow · 06-13-2017, 08:01 PM

Was expecting this to happen as I've seen many complaints about the Z06 overheating on the Corvette forum (and was considering buying a Z06 before deciding to buy the ZL1). Glad I made the choice I made.

http://news.morningstar.com/all/busi...the-track.aspx

Michigan1LTRS · 06-13-2017, 08:04 PM

So, what is the difference between the Z06 and the ZL1 in terms of cooling? Same engine, ZL1 has been praised on the track for its cooling capabilities.

Dethsupp0rt · 06-13-2017, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

So, what is the difference between the Z06 and the ZL1 in terms of cooling? Same engine, ZL1 has been praised on the track for its cooling capabilities.

There's more frontal area for air intake first of all, and more room in the engine bay for heat exchangers.

RedCamaroZL1 · 06-13-2017, 08:23 PM

This suit probably happened because the GT350 suit happened. However, I don't feel GT350 owners are entitled to anything for not buying the track package. The Z06 overheating is different IMO as there is no track pack (Z07 doesn't add cooling that I know of). So buyers didn't fail to buy the correct model for their needs. I thought GM offered some type of fix for owners though???

bucknut2006 · 06-13-2017, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

So, what is the difference between the Z06 and the ZL1 in terms of cooling? Same engine, ZL1 has been praised on the track for its cooling capabilities.

The Z06 has a small center grill opening, radiator hood extractor and then two scoops on the rear fenders. The ZL1 has a lower/upper grill and two on the side of the lower plus a decent size heat extractor on the hood. The ZL1 has a reported 11 coolers while the Z06 has fewer. You can see that GM recognized the issue with the "ZR1" test cars running around with the expanded grills that a similar to what LG Racing offers aftermarket.

kttxz06 · 06-13-2017, 08:51 PM

I added my name to the list.

curtislowerussell · 06-13-2017, 10:54 PM

Added my name. We purchased the C7.R supposed to be race ready

psalmon123 · 06-13-2017, 11:31 PM

Added my name!

camaro5 · 06-14-2017, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

So, what is the difference between the Z06 and the ZL1 in terms of cooling? Same engine, ZL1 has been praised on the track for its cooling capabilities.

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The Bugatti Veyron quite famously came complete with 10 heat exchangers. That 1,001-horsepower projection of Ferdinand Piëch’s ego made so much heat it needed 10 intercoolers to keep it from boiling.

The 650-horsepower 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 has 11. Insert Spinal Tap joke here.

Here’s the part Chevrolet doesn’t want me to say: In the Z06, the LT4 has cooling issues. The mighty Corvette’s heart heat soaks or overheats.

Remember those 11 heat exchangers I was talking about? The Camaro ZL1 will not overheat. I tried, but even after six sets of rear tires in four days—not joking—the thunderous V-8 never so much as simmered.

Two of those 11 heat exchangers are actually the intercoolers that straddle the supercharger. They are redesigned and repositioned for ZL1 duty.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...e-squad-goals/

Camaro Team: Nailed it!vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

URBAN LEGEND · 06-14-2017, 03:38 AM

10 years later you get $6.00 and 10% percent coupon for GM accessories...

sengli · 06-14-2017, 06:22 AM

That is very disappointing to see this for such a beautiful car.

unavailablezl1 · 06-14-2017, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RedCamaroZL1

This suit probably happened because the GT350 suit happened. However, I don't feel GT350 owners are entitled to anything for not buying the track package. The Z06 overheating is different IMO as there is no track pack (Z07 doesn't add cooling that I know of). So buyers didn't fail to buy the correct model for their needs. I thought GM offered some type of fix for owners though???

I had a Tech Pack and sold it for the ZL1. I slightly disagree with that statement about the GT350. They say that the buyer should have known. I know it was advertised as the most track ready Mustang ever. Why would I think otherwise? So the value of my car was less than what it should have been. So that is why there are so many Tech Packs on the lot for over a year and no one wants them. Ford screwed the dealers on this one, unless they fix them.

But, I have the better, nicer, more luxurious car anyway, and faster..... oh, and cooler.....

hotlap · 06-14-2017, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro5

Two of those 11 heat exchangers are actually the intercoolers that straddle the supercharger. They are redesigned and repositioned for ZL1 duty.

Camaro Team: Nailed it!vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

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LibertyHill · 06-14-2017, 08:18 AM

I read somewhere the lid change was to correct a lean condition in the forward cylinders not a cooling issue?

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