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Old 06-30-2017, 07:49 PM   #29
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Don't know if they failed but we setup a time.


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Old 06-30-2017, 07:57 PM   #30
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The locksmith is involved......nobody opens a car for someone without the keys visible inside unless they have proof it's their vehicle.
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:04 PM   #31
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Sadly my car was stolen last night and attempted break in the day before from a private apartment complex in south Philadelphia. It's a black 2014 SS with z28 Spoiler and NPP option, Manual. Sidelights and rear lights are tinted. Lexani chrome black wheels invictus Z. If someone sees this vehicle driving around or standing somewhere please PM to me or information to 1st police district Philadelphia 215-686-3010. This was a setup, somebody called a locksmith the day before and let the car be opened and the theft system activated. They have kind of a tool to program or turn ignition on. Side window was cracked, steering lock neutral. I don't think you can do anything like this without a key or ignition on. I couldn't move the car. And the next night they stole it, no signs of a tow truck, so they must have driven it off the lot.

If that is a new way to steal cars, watch out for your camaros!

Any help is appreciated. Please share.

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The thing is how they did it, locksmith the day before and then gone with the antitheft active and no sign of a tow truck on the surveillance. Also I recognized my open close remote didn't work that night when the antitheft was active. And i tried to fix this with the Chevrolet assistance. Also worse this OnStar shit, if you never setup an account and pay, they not even can track your car in case of theft. I'm sure they switched the BCU. It should still open and close with the key remote?! Really awkward. Also that locksmith company who did this advertise with reprogramming FOB's and BCU/ECU's.... something is off there

If somebody can tell me how this anti theft system works, would be nice.


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OP, sorry for your loss! I live in Philly as well, N.E.. I'm always on the lookout for other camaros on the road. I know of quite a few in my area from seeing them repeatedly. I travel all over the city and suburbs for my work. I will definitely keep an eye out for it, but like others have said, it's probably a lost cause. Chances are it made its way to the docks either here or in NY and is sitting in a sea box on its way to Europe or the middle east.
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:05 PM   #32
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Everything GM designed as far as "security" for the Camaro is 100% useless. Thieves are using hacked ECU's. They get under the hood, swap the ECU and drive off. Takes about a minute. It's been really bad here with 5th gens for a couple years. And now they're targeting 6th gens as well.

I think three or four Camaros in our local Camaro club have been stolen. Here's one of them.

https://youtu.be/u-FKJuJIqTY
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:29 PM   #33
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2014 Camaro SS stolen in Philadelphia Area

But with what they steal it? Is there an universal key? How they can get the steering wheel lock off without any scratches? I understand the part with the ECU, but you still need a key for the manual locks?!

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Old 06-30-2017, 08:51 PM   #34
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Thank you for the warning. Not much you can do if the locksmith was accessory to that theft. He didn't do his due diligence. Anyhow,I guess it's back to the old days, when you have to use a club and lock it on your steering wheel, but that's not full proof, they can bypass that with a tow truck but maybe it's enough to deter a less than experienced car thief. Keep us updated.

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Old 06-30-2017, 08:55 PM   #35
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Thank you for the warning. Not much you can do if the locksmith was accessory to that theft. He didn't do his due diligence. Anyhow,I guess it's back to the old days, when you have to use a club and lock it on your steering wheel, but that's not full proof, they can bypass that with a tow truck but maybe it's enough to deter a less than experienced car thief. Keep us updated.

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Old 06-30-2017, 09:04 PM   #36
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The sad things these days, if they want your car, they will get it! All information is out there in the web. Just dig in it, and you prepared. Takes seconds or minutes. The only thing is Anker your car to the ground with good old st42 chains an inch thick and they will go nowhere.


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Old 06-30-2017, 09:57 PM   #37
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I apologize then.
You sound young and inexperienced.

And tow trucks do come out at 10PM, 3AM, whatever. More often than not they take it to a yard that is monitored 24/7. It isn't an easy life for the drivers. Just like police and firemen. It's an emergency service.

While most people know vehicles with flashing red or blue lights always have the right of way, so do vehicles with flashing yellow lights. You are required to yield. Just for your information. Construction vehicles, tow trucks, etc.
Must be an Illinois thing. You absolutely are not required to yield to a tow truck in Pennsylvania. They aren't even supposed to have the amber lights on while towing, but 99% of them do.
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Old 07-01-2017, 03:37 AM   #38
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This really sucks to read.
You have insurance. So I'm sure you can get a replacement that way. I'd sue the lock smith company for being stupid.

Your likely hood of ever seeing this car again is 0% if its not in a shipping container its been stripped parts sold off and what's left cut up and sold for scrap.

In CA its common to just strip the car of everything with in 8 hours. Cut up the frame and skeleton in to chunks and take it to a scrap yard.

I do hope every one saying move on including me is wrong and they find your baby.
But next car pay to have a kill switch hidden somewhere.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:04 AM   #39
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Must be an Illinois thing. You absolutely are not required to yield to a tow truck in Pennsylvania. They aren't even supposed to have the amber lights on while towing, but 99% of them do.
Well, I am not going to look up the statutes in Pennsylvania. Are you saying that you don't have to yield to maintenance or construction vehicles?
Because a tow truck is a maintenance vehicle.

A construction vehicle may be maintaining guardrail or shoulders or other safety issues which can cause a danger to the general public, including stalled vehicles.

The reason tow trucks keep the amber lights on is because it is difficult for a following driver to see brake lights and turn signals.

Now I have not worked in Pennsylvania but I have worked on highways in seven other states. Construction and maintenance vehicles always require you to slow down and yield.

You are threatening lives if you don't.
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Old 07-01-2017, 06:20 AM   #40
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They have to change VIN numbers then I still have the original title, that shouldn't be easy


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They don't have to change VIN numbers. Once your insurance pays you for the vehicle, they own it so your title wouldn't mean anything anymore. When the thief buys it from the auction its put on a salvage title with the same VIN. My Camaro that was stolen has the same VIN on it. I looked it up about 6 months after I was car jacked on Carfax and it was being driven in a different state on a salvage title.
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Well, I am not going to look up the statutes in Pennsylvania. Are you saying that you don't have to yield to maintenance or construction vehicles?
Because a tow truck is a maintenance vehicle.

A construction vehicle may be maintaining guardrail or shoulders or other safety issues which can cause a danger to the general public, including stalled vehicles.

The reason tow trucks keep the amber lights on is because it is difficult for a following driver to see brake lights and turn signals.

Now I have not worked in Pennsylvania but I have worked on highways in seven other states. Construction and maintenance vehicles always require you to slow down and yield.

You are threatening lives if you don't.
I think the confusion is coming from the wording you used, especially in your 1st post I quoted, in which you give the same power to tow trucks as police, fire, & EMS. Yield by statute requires the other motorists to allow passage over the normal standards of movement, i.e. "right of way". This is far different than prudent caution when approaching a work zone, as your example of maintenance trucks working on a guide rail. Tow trucks are allowed amber lighting for approach to an emergency scene and during the load up, however under PA Title 75, or commonly referred to as "the motor code", the amber lighting is not to be used during the transport. Personally it doesn't bother me if tow trucks use the amber lights when hauling a vehicle, but they absolutely do not require anyone to yield. Title 75 also does not allow volunteer fire & EMS responders to violate normal traffic regulations while responding in their private vehicles equipped with lightning or for other traffic to yield, but I always pull over and let them pass.
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Old 07-01-2017, 07:51 AM   #42
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Keeping a look out. It looks like my car so I would notice it easily. A pro will get your car if it's parked outside. They have most things figured out, even aftermarket systems. A hidden kill switch works but they can tow it. Tough break. I hope the thefts of Camaros doesn't escalate here like in Calif. one is too many!
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