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10-06-2011, 07:22 AM | #45 |
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More power, less weight, launch control, and track mode the new gt500 will be insane! now they need to fix those fugly tail-lights. The 2013 GT500 will prbably be faster than the zl1 around the ring.
From an SVT member: GM posted new Nurburgring ZL1 footage of 2 different cars 2 days after my post. There were locals running watches (as always)... There are a few of us going up this weekend, there were afternoon tourist days all this week and I have heard that "the" 500 was up there. Friday is an unannounced day so, if we are lucky, we could see some last minute runs before round 8 of the VLN on Saturday. The race starts at noon so track prep can be done prior to that so Friday will be one of those days you see strange test being done because the day isn't advertised and spectators are fewer. Something was wrong with the blue ZL1, nothing severe enough to tow it away... It was running funny I guess.. I wasn't there though. There were 2 full tourist days on the 18th and 19th so I think the testing was done on those days. There were two afternoon slots on the 16th and 17th but I heard it was Sunday/Monday. The times are similar to the black and blue but not red ("the" 500). I heard that SVT is staying at the hotel Tiergarten in Nurburg but the car won't be there . A couple of my guys are up there now (I am having trouble standing up this week), the track should open in about an hour and a half (about 1730), I hope they catch something. Depending on what I see, a trip to Cologne might be in the future . Edit: Comparing the two videos, there is a portion of the track that both "the" 500 and the Blue ZL1 run through in each of their videos. This particular turn is dangerous on exit in the GT500 as it has a cemented area that causes the cars axle to lateral push with a mini hop and chirp. Red was about 1-1.5 seconds faster through that area than the ZL1. The ZL1 is slower in the turns for some reason, it took the bump kinda sluggish and got to the end of the candy cane at least a second behind. P.S. New camaro's have nothing to worry about the 5.0. Their manually chinese tranny is crap & and they blow up #8 cylinder's if you tune them.
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I doubt it was at the extent in which the Ford system is, even the GTR's isn't as complex as this one. I believe it only monitored 11 different aspects of engine spec, transmission specs and torque split but I am not sure there was a braking monitor, 0-60, 0-100, 1/8th mile, 1/4 mile, Christmas tree feature and G forces.. let alone internal engine component speeds and temps, transmission temps (probably with shift and gear indicators) and god knows what else. If it is based on NAV then in the future you can save your favorite tracks and your best lap times/performance, upload them onto a thumb drive via the USB port in the console.. and upload them to your lap top and overlay them with previous runs to see your progression...
While Ford realizes that a large portion of buyers are racing these cars, why not integrate the lap top, testing equipment and 5th wheel into the car using existing vehicle equipment. It will actually reduce race/test weight and only add the minimum weight to the production car... Anyway, back the the 5.8.. There are sources now saying that the 5.8 will be at the magic 620hp mark like previously stated by C&D. I guess their sources were correct... somewhat... Quote:
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It wont matter what Ford puts in the Shelby GT500 for 2013 600hp wont matter if the Shelby GT500 still has the same pathetic suspension and still cant put the power to the ground with traction management it wont matter. We already know the ZL1 has no trouble with either of those and Ford doesnt have the technology that Chevy & Ferrari has with magnetic suspension so we will see. Im betting the suspension and PTM will be too much for the Shelby unless they have some new technology tricks up their sleeve.
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Here is what we seen in June, Ford tested this GT500 while Team Corvette ran the record ring run... Quote:
I am impressed that Chevrolet beat the C63 Black that was 4123lbs and produced 670hp and 740tq... however, that run was actually an official run from a stop (like the ZR1). If Ford is going into this race with a 7:35 and a 167mph top speed (the only lap I seen and the top speed was not confirmed by us) then it is possible that this snake is prepped and ready to go.... It does weigh 3850lbs, 600-620hp and has a large supercharger on top.... The ZL1 comes in at 7:41 with 170mph top speed for reference. Remember, the 2012 CTS-V had a top speed of 144mph on the straight at VIR, the 2012 GT500 only did 137 (142 on the record run), the GT500 still beat the CTS-V in every section of the track and ultimately won by a second on the same day. What I want to see happen, is now that Chevrolet went public with an unofficial time.. I want to see SVT hushed about the Ring and when they are compared stateside.. everyone will wonder what happened from Germany to the US? The actual battle will be at either VIR, Laguna or Willow (or all three)... VIR and Laguna hates heavy cars, Willow is a very fast track... I doubt we will see the video of this "7:41" run but we won't see the GT500s June run either... Edit: This is an American car defense statement here: You have to watch Porsche when you beat them, they will buy the car, ship it here, run it slower (from a dig) and call you a liar. You will ultimately have to back up the unofficial time with a production car time or they will be all over us (see GTR). Also, there is no standard for official lap times. manufacturers shave tires, run race gas, aggressive tunes, weight reduction and god knows what else. There is no official Nurburgring inspection team so the watch is really the only judge, upon futher inspection though, you will find out that you can't "Ring" as fast as the manufactures do. The SS posted an 8:20, the fastest local SS posted an 8:40 and had wheels, tires, suspension, exhaust and a few other things (weight reduction) and sold the car in August 2010 because the it was impossible to reproduce the claimed lap times (I posted this car here last year). I would like to know the details on this run but I know that I am asking for too much, the locals are also calling BS and waiting for a video upload to at least add it to the list. Last edited by thePill; 10-06-2011 at 02:36 PM. |
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