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GetSmart · 08-13-2020, 06:36 PM

I had the GPI I VVT cam also and now I'm having the BTR stage 3 cam installed. The installer said we will drive it around first to see if it needs a new torque converter. I'm thinking it should get one, at least 2800.

marklsx · 08-13-2020, 09:38 PM

I daily drive mine with a BTR Stage 3, lots of highway miles. I installed the cam in the fall of 2017, probably around 85k miles at the time. Now I'm at about 150k miles. I change the springs and seals annually. Love it.

1JEWLDSSRS · 08-14-2020, 02:40 PM

I run the TSP Stage 3 with a 3200 stall for 2 years, and getting ready to upgrade the stall to a Circle D 5C 4000-4200, 3200 with this cam just wasn't enough. Put 14k so far on the build, love it.

RobZL1 · 08-14-2020, 03:20 PM

About 14k miles a year on a GP Tuning 2.5 cam. Only had it in for a little over a year and plan to change springs at the ~28k mile mark next year. Makes me smile every day. Can't imagine going back to a non-cammed car. It's just too darned cool.

Leo72793 · 08-14-2020, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RobZL1

About 14k miles a year on a GP Tuning 2.5 cam. Only had it in for a little over a year and plan to change springs at the ~28k mile mark next year. Makes me smile every day. Can't imagine going back to a non-cammed car. It's just too darned cool.

Why do people have to change valve springs so often? Im looking at a stage 2 gpi vvt and the high end springs, retainers etc. but why do they get changed every year or so?

InFiD3ViL · 08-14-2020, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo72793

Why do people have to change valve springs so often? Im looking at a stage 2 gpi vvt and the high end springs, retainers etc. but why do they get changed every year or so?

The general consensus for changing these stiffer springs is 20,000-25,000 miles. The springs get weaker as they wear and eventually can crack or break, which you definitely don't want. It is not an issue for those that are running low lift OEM beehives or comparable springs, as most of those are meant to last 100k+ miles. Most cam manufacturers will recommend which spring to use with their cam and when to replace them.

I only have 3,000 miles on mine but plan to change them every 20k miles just to stay safe. I am running the BTR Platinum .660 dual springs with titanium retainers - Very common springs around here.

1JEWLDSSRS · 08-15-2020, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RobZL1

About 14k miles a year on a GP Tuning 2.5 cam. Only had it in for a little over a year and plan to change springs at the ~28k mile mark next year. Makes me smile every day. Can't imagine going back to a non-cammed car. It's just too darned cool.

AMEN TO THAT BRO !

1JEWLDSSRS · 08-15-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

The general consensus for changing these stiffer springs is 20,000-25,000 miles. The springs get weaker as they wear and eventually can crack or break, which you definitely don't want. It is not an issue for those that are running low lift OEM beehives or comparable springs, as most of those are meant to last 100k+ miles. Most cam manufacturers will recommend which spring to use with their cam and when to replace them.

I only have 3,000 miles on mine but plan to change them every 20k miles just to stay safe. I am running the BTR Platinum .660 dual springs with titanium retainers - Very common springs around here.

Well said sir, and the fact that our cams have way more lift than a stock cam it puts a lot of strain on them too. I am running the same springs and such and plan to change them out at 20k, just to stay safe and keep it all working properly.

Leo72793 · 08-15-2020, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

Well said sir, and the fact that our cams have way more lift than a stock cam it puts a lot of strain on them too. I am running the same springs and such and plan to change them out at 20k, just to stay safe and keep it all working properly.

id be going GPI ss2 VVT cam ( recommended vvt since i daily. not to do ls3 conversion ) so the springs i should get last how long? it would take me 3-4 years to hit 30k miles for sure.

RobZL1 · 08-15-2020, 03:58 PM

It depends on the lift and the ramp rates on the lobes. Most cam designs use a softer ramp these days, but some still use the older-style lobes from the early 00's, such as Lingenfelter. Im not sure what GPI uses, but you could ask them. With my cam, for example, 30-40k shouldn't be a problem due to reasonable lift and "easy" lobes

1JEWLDSSRS · 08-15-2020, 04:12 PM

Mine is the 231/246@112 LSA ...614/641 lift..

wasthatacop? · 08-16-2020, 04:47 PM

I daily mine. That cam you want is just within the hardcore territory, but still could be your daily if you only do 4,500 miles a year.
I'm curious, what did you cam install cost? I just cammed mine in my garage and I am wondering.

1JEWLDSSRS · 08-16-2020, 07:33 PM

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I daily mine. That cam you want is just within the hardcore territory, but still could be your daily if you only do 4,500 miles a year.
I'm curious, what did you cam install cost? I just cammed mine in my garage and I am wondering.

Who are you asking of this ?

wasthatacop? · 08-16-2020, 07:53 PM

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Who are you asking of this ?

Anybody who paid a mechanic to install a cam. I'm curious how much $

08-13-2020, 06:36 PM	#29
GetSmart Drives: 2013 Black SS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 216 View My Garage	I had the GPI I VVT cam also and now I'm having the BTR stage 3 cam installed. The installer said we will drive it around first to see if it needs a new torque converter. I'm thinking it should get one, at least 2800. __________________ Rotofab CAI, VMAX PTB, Borla S axle-back, Dynatech SuperMaxx 1 7/8" headers/HF cats, No weeds exhaust diverters, Apex air scoop & catch can, Rohana wheels, MPD1 Z-Force Hood, BTR Stage 3 cam, Vitesse Throttle Controller, etc...

08-13-2020, 09:38 PM	#30
marklsx Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MA Posts: 103	I daily drive mine with a BTR Stage 3, lots of highway miles. I installed the cam in the fall of 2017, probably around 85k miles at the time. Now I'm at about 150k miles. I change the springs and seals annually. Love it. __________________ 2014 1SS - BTR Stg3, GMPP CNC Heads, Kooks LTs & cats, Magnaflow 2.5" Street w/Res X, Z28 CAI

08-14-2020, 02:40 PM	#31
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,435	I run the TSP Stage 3 with a 3200 stall for 2 years, and getting ready to upgrade the stall to a Circle D 5C 4000-4200, 3200 with this cam just wasn't enough. Put 14k so far on the build, love it. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

08-14-2020, 03:20 PM	#32
RobZL1 fo'shizZL1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ATL Posts: 1,281	About 14k miles a year on a GP Tuning 2.5 cam. Only had it in for a little over a year and plan to change springs at the ~28k mile mark next year. Makes me smile every day. Can't imagine going back to a non-cammed car. It's just too darned cool. __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Black \| Maggie 2650 // 103TB // Big Gulp Past Rides- 2014 ZL1 M6 Red Hot \| Tons of mods 2004 CTS-V M6 Silver \| Many mods 1995 Corvette M6 Torch Red \| A few more mods 1992 Camaro M5 White \| A few mods

08-15-2020, 03:58 PM	#38
RobZL1 fo'shizZL1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ATL Posts: 1,281	It depends on the lift and the ramp rates on the lobes. Most cam designs use a softer ramp these days, but some still use the older-style lobes from the early 00's, such as Lingenfelter. Im not sure what GPI uses, but you could ask them. With my cam, for example, 30-40k shouldn't be a problem due to reasonable lift and "easy" lobes __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Black \| Maggie 2650 // 103TB // Big Gulp Past Rides- 2014 ZL1 M6 Red Hot \| Tons of mods 2004 CTS-V M6 Silver \| Many mods 1995 Corvette M6 Torch Red \| A few more mods 1992 Camaro M5 White \| A few mods

08-15-2020, 04:12 PM	#39
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,435	Mine is the 231/246@112 LSA ...614/641 lift.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

08-16-2020, 04:47 PM	#40
wasthatacop? Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 360 View My Garage	I daily mine. That cam you want is just within the hardcore territory, but still could be your daily if you only do 4,500 miles a year. I'm curious, what did you cam install cost? I just cammed mine in my garage and I am wondering. __________________ 2010 2SS living in Los Angeles replaced engine @ 93,000 miles w/ crate engine, camshaft by Comp Cams installed by me, replaced valve train parts, 1.4" BMR lowering springs ZL1 factory rims misc: drilled and slotted rotors, fresh air brake cooling system, new speakers, installed reverse camera, muffler delete