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Old 05-29-2019, 03:00 PM   #29
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autonomous driving is only needed to reduce the cost of ride services. It's not a requirement for everything i posted about to come about.

if ride services with human drivers can remain cost effective or become more cost effective due to rising cost of living and stagnant wages then you have a drop and eventual end of personal car ownership and thus a massive consolidation of brands all the same.

10-20 years. 1 to maybe 2 generations of the status quo even without autonomous driving and we'll witness the collapse. We're very close to the tipping point where people are choosing if they can afford car payments or rent payments on a massive scale now. It isn't getting better. Owning a home isn't even a consideration for the current generation in most places people live. Owning a car is a necessary evil to most that they'll drop the moment it makes financial sense without losing quality of life.
I think you need to move out of Commiefornia. Reading all your posts in various threads, you seem miserable.
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Old 05-29-2019, 03:10 PM   #30
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I think you need to move out of Commiefornia. Reading all your posts in various threads, you seem miserable.
To a degree he does kind of have a point. The cost of living is going up everywhere. Its definitely nothing close to California where you need a $300k salary to even consider owning a home, but in alot of metro's we are seeing the average cost of housing rising from the mid 200k to the low 300k mark while wages are not going up.

At the same token though, I heavily doubt that personal vehicle ownership will be phased out in only 20 years. I personally work pretty close with Waymo, Autonomous cars are still very limited in capability. For them to work properly, infrastructure surrounding them, including legal frameworks would have to be completely reconstructed, and thats not happening anytime soon.
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Old 05-29-2019, 03:11 PM   #31
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I think you need to move out of Commiefornia. Reading all your posts in various threads, you seem miserable.
every part of the country has their problems and complaints. Only lived here for 5 years and it's by far better than the north east ...and i'd never consider anywhere in the bible belt.

my pessimistic posts are more about car culture future in general looking bad.
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:19 PM   #32
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As I read these posts I’m getting more and more depressed! Lol! I’m glad I only have another 20 years or so on this planet. I’m also very grateful that I have been able to participate in the BEST era of automotive performance of all time! Huge HP, Performance, and amazing sports/muscle cars have made life a blast in the past 10 years for those of us that appreciate such things! The writing is on the wall folks! Enjoy them while you have them!
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:26 PM   #33
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There was a long period of time when foreign cars were simply better.
and some still are! There is a reason that GM & Ford are going away from small cars & sedans. Kia & Hyundai have come a long way, while Honda & Toyota aren't sitting around playing Checkers!
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:34 PM   #34
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I see a continuation of co development of parts, the A10 transmission being a prime example. But an out right merger seems far fetched and an attention grab of a head line.
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:14 PM   #35
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:54 PM   #36
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as I said over on FB.. its MSN so it must be fake news.. lol.
Yep...FaKe NeWs....they print and concoct half assed news for clicks.
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Old 05-29-2019, 06:26 PM   #37
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Cool. They could call it AMC, merge the Mustang and Camaro, and call it a Javelin.
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:42 PM   #38
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Considering the government tried to convince GM to take Chrysler in the bankruptcy, I guess anything is possible.

However there is no advantage until you eliminate redundancies. This merged company wouldn’t need a Camaro and a Mustang. It sure wouldn’t want to invest 3 Billion for a new GM pickup and then another 3 Billion for a Ford.

The resultant company would simply start slashing models to reduce costs.

Now 30 years from now when an EV powertrain eliminate one major differentiator and people are renting/sharing transportation, who knows.
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:50 PM   #39
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:42 PM   #41
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I'm for it, I think. GM has the tech and R&D, Ford has proven to make more exciting products as a whole, better in touch with what consumers want. Could be a win.
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Old 05-29-2019, 11:44 PM   #42
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The Auto industry in this country was once the driving force of our economy.
Frankly, I think it a shame that imported cars are being purchased by American citizens.
Lol, it’s a global economy now. Is it bad if I buy a Tundra that was built here in Texas? How about a Hyundai built in Alabama? Or maybe a BMW built in South Carolina?
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