2010 Camaro Engine Line-Up Guess

[camaro5]

Anything is possible...But if they had an LS3 with AFM, they would still have two entry level V8's. LS3 w/ AFM and LS3 w/o AFM. Two different beasts, two different inventories, etc.

I doubt they'll just disable the AFM on manual trans cars.

All good stuff

[The_Blur]

I just want to point out that AFM has been in the works for years. It is very possible that GM has taken so long to release the Camaro, knowing that the Mustang is making tons of cash without much similar competition, in part because they want to get AFM right on the V8. It is very possible that the AFM motor will be both auto and manual and will be an engine we already know, such as the LS3.

In other words, GM wants to do it right and make it revolutionary. They've taken so long working on the technology to make sure that the Camaro will wax the competition in almost every category. It will be a masterpiece, whichever engine we get.

[mario82z28]

Coming from a true camaro fanatic, is there going to retro the car they should do a modern style of a retro motor... say like the old 427 with new style heads and a Muncie

[Slave One]

nah, I'll pass... i like change, and I like modern technology...

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by mario82z28

Coming from a true camaro fanatic, is there going to retro the car they should do a modern style of a retro motor... say like the old 427 with new style heads and a Muncie

I'm kinda liking that idea.

[Krieger]

If GM wants the Camaro to be top in it's class, and this sentiment has been expressed, I think the The 2010 Camaro Engine Line-up should be:
1.) Camaro SS: FI V8 @ 530hp Starting at $34k
2.) Camaro Z28: NA V8 @ 430hp Starting at $29k
3.) Camaro: DI V6 @ 330hp Starting at $24k

With these power figures and prices it's a home run.

In this up and coming generation of cars 300hp is the old 200hp (any brand can offer affordable 300hp now i.e.hyundai genesis,350z,etc...), the bar starts here.
Setting the Camaro at levels that compete with 2008 models is not a good idea (these 2008 cars were designed 1 or 2 years ago) and would insure a new 2010 Camaro is competing with 2+ year old cars.

Motortrend

A Mustang with an EcoBoost V-6 engine has been approved, although it might not be the first Ford (after the Lincoln MKS) in line. The direct-injection, turbocharged 3.5-liter V-6 in the Mustang will make more than the 4.6-liter V-8's 300 horsepower and probably get 2-mpg better EPA results. Expect the EcoBoost to follow the facelift on the '10 Mustang.

(This engine is capable of up to 415 horsepower)

I wouldn't put a Camaro label on any particular known motor just yet, I think something else is coming. In fact lets just call it the LS18436572.
GM wants to compete in 2010 not 2008.

One thing is for sure, if they want to sell the car this time no matter what engine it has DO NOT APPROVE A BIG HUMP IN THE PASSENGER FLOOR WHERE PEOPLE PUT THEIR FEET! I can't even count the number of times I've had to say "catalytic converter, ask again and you're sitting in the back".

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Krieger

If GM wants the Camaro to be top in it's class, and this sentiment has been expressed, I think the The 2010 Camaro Engine Line-up should be:
1.) Camaro SS: FI V8 @ 530hp Starting at $34k
2.) Camaro Z28: NA V8 @ 430hp Starting at $29k
3.) Camaro: DI V6 @ 330hp Starting at $24k

With these power figures and prices it's a home run.

In this up and coming generation of cars 300hp is the old 200hp (any brand can offer affordable 300hp now i.e.hyundai genesis,350z,etc...), the bar starts here.
Setting the Camaro at levels that compete with 2008 models is not a good idea (these 2008 cars were designed 1 or 2 years ago) and would insure a new 2010 Camaro is competing with 2+ year old cars.

Motortrend

(This engine is capable of up to 415 horsepower)

I wouldn't put a Camaro label on any particular known motor just yet, I think something else is coming. In fact lets just call it the LS18436572.
GM wants to compete in 2010 not 2008.

One thing is for sure, if they want to sell the car this time no matter what engine it has DO NOT APPROVE A BIG HUMP IN THE PASSENGER FLOOR WHERE PEOPLE PUT THEIR FEET! I can't even count the number of times I've had to say "catalytic converter, ask again and you're sitting in the back".

I like this guy. These are numbers that we'd all love. Without too much effort, we could match these with aftermarket if the V8 is 400 hp and the V6 is 300. Regardless, this might be what it takes to be the top of its class.

However, we need to define our class. Are we focusing on the Mustang and Challenger or are we also going to include the Evo, STi, Supra (when released), and GT-R (when released)? If GM's goals are to pound American muscle, then we already have a winner with a less amibitious powerhouse, but this is right on target if GM wants to lead the market.

As far as pricing, I would agree with these numbers for the horsepower. While I've speculated that the V6 will start under $22k and the V8 will start under $27k, these are tolerable numbers for the performance. As we all know, GM has promised a good deal for the numbers. Even if they can't match the Mustang for pricing, the horsepower will outweigh the cost.

[Omega94]

Originally Posted by Krieger

If GM wants the Camaro to be top in it's class, and this sentiment has been expressed, I think the The 2010 Camaro Engine Line-up should be:
1.) Camaro SS: FI V8 @ 530hp Starting at $34k
2.) Camaro Z28: NA V8 @ 430hp Starting at $29k
3.) Camaro: DI V6 @ 330hp Starting at $24k

GENIUS! That's how I feel! I actually would like your #2 choice to start at $27 or $28k...I'll sacrifice about 30 HP for that too... I also think that a 530 HP Camaro will never start at $34k (I know you're saying that they SHOULD start there and not that you actually think they WILL)...

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Omega94

GENIUS! That's how I feel! I actually would like your #2 choice to start at $27 or $28k...I'll sacrifice about 30 HP for that too... I also think that a 530 HP Camaro will never start at $34k (I know you're saying that they SHOULD start there and not that you actually think they WILL)...

Actually, if there aren't any options on it, I could see one starting with that much power at that price. Look at the price differential he suggested. That's an adequate enough gap to produce clear separation between the trims. I'd expect similar interior material, but the top one will get some sort of special embroidery on the seats and maybe a special set of bucket seats, like the Recaros that the Cobalt SS offered in 2005 and 2006.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Krieger

3.) Camaro: DI V6 @ 330hp Starting at $24k

Drat. You've just priced me out of a Camaro. I don't need to drive that much faster than the older Camaros I always wanted...

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Drat. You've just priced me out of a Camaro. I don't need to drive that much faster than the older Camaros I always wanted...

If you check eBay Motors or any other car auctioning site, you should be able to find older Camaros for just under $30k that are in great shape. The only problem is that those are in the same price range as the V8 Zeta. You might just have to save a little longer like I will. It'll be around for a while, so keep on dreaming about that next generation muscle car.

[mandra]

http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/

why are they telling the world that an LS2 400HP will be in the new Camaro?

Note Click on Features then on Performance Features.

[Omega94]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Actually, if there aren't any options on it, I could see one starting with that much power at that price. Look at the price differential he suggested. That's an adequate enough gap to produce clear separation between the trims. I'd expect similar interior material, but the top one will get some sort of special embroidery on the seats and maybe a special set of bucket seats, like the Recaros that the Cobalt SS offered in 2005 and 2006.

Even with no options...I feel as though a 530 hp Camaro will base higher than $34k...most of the speculation has been putting the 500+hp at $37-39k...I feel like that is closer to what an actual price would be. But as far as the top level V8 getting special buckets...I really hope Recaros, Sparcos, or Corbeaus are at LEAST an option! Either way, thank you for your input, I really wasn't thinking about it that way.

[Omega94]

Originally Posted by mandra

http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/

why are they telling the world that an LS2 400HP will be in the new Camaro?

Note Click on Features then on Performance Features.

The things on that site have to do with the Concept Camaro. The Concept has an LS2. It also has 21 and 22 inch wheels...but those most likely aren't going to make production. But just to reiterate...those specs are for the Camaro Concept. The same goes for the 'vert.