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Old 06-20-2018, 09:37 AM   #15
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by the time you buy a cover, gears, and a truetrac you're about the same cost of a diff and axles
$1400(if that due to discounts) vs $2500?
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Old 06-20-2018, 10:08 AM   #16
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you're looking in the wrong places if you're paying 2500 for used diff/axles and you can offset the cost by selling your stock diff/axles.

I know a lot of guys think they can save money here but it's not a place to skimp... long term youll be buying stuff again after it breaks. I've had a stock diff, a stock diff with 4.11s, a zl1 diff, and now a solid axle. I have experience with them and can tell you that a stock diff next to a zl1 is no comparison.
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:13 AM   #17
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the issue is the deflection of the aluminum under heavy load. the best bang for your buck upgrade is the zl1 diff. by the time you buy a cover, gears, and a truetrac you're about the same cost of a diff and axles
Limited gear options keep me away from the ZL1 diff. If I ever upgrade beyond building up the SS rear it'll probably be to an S60. Unless I add a lot more power I should be ok with the well built SS rear.
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:45 AM   #18
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Limited gear options keep me away from the ZL1 diff. If I ever upgrade beyond building up the SS rear it'll probably be to an S60. Unless I add a lot more power I should be ok with the well built SS rear.
agreed! a vendor needs to step up and make gears for it.

if you get that deep into it go solid axle. the 380lbs I shaved off the car was worth it
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Old 06-20-2018, 12:45 PM   #19
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I've had a stock diff, a stock diff with 4.11s, a zl1 diff, and now a solid axle. I have experience with them and can tell you that a stock diff next to a zl1 is no comparison.
which is why I plan on going with a 9" solid axle on the roller I am about to go pick up from thepartsfarm. twin S475s are not going to do well with IRS axles.
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:34 PM   #20
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which is why I plan on going with a 9" solid axle on the roller I am about to go pick up from thepartsfarm. twin S475s are not going to do well with IRS axles.
my stock zl1 axles would occasionally click after a footbrake launch with just 730whp. it was only a matter of time before one of those went. if you need ideas for your build, take a look at my build thread. not much room for chargers in our engine bays but I got a gt55 in there with a 5 inch downpipe.
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agreed! a vendor needs to step up and make gears for it.

if you get that deep into it go solid axle. the 380lbs I shaved off the car was worth it
Really!! 380 lbs thats crazy I would of never thought that much
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Really!! 380 lbs thats crazy I would of never thought that much
it's insane to think about lol. just the zl1 Center section is 144lbs. that's more than the whole setup weighs
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it's insane to think about lol. just the zl1 Center section is 144lbs. that's more than the whole setup weighs
Mind blowing number really but probably more mind blowing is the $$$$, but your who car is $$$$ and looking awesome cant wait to see some numbers when finished
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it's insane to think about lol. just the zl1 Center section is 144lbs. that's more than the whole setup weighs
i believe every bit of it. picked up a rear cradle where the only pieces left on it were the upper arms, sway bar, and diff and thought i might cry. We wanted to put it on a cart that was about 3 ft high to work on it and quickly realized that was not a 2 man job
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:21 AM   #25
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You might wanna get rid of the clutch pack LSD and go with a gear driven like a tru trac or a eatin found in the Z28. I scored a really low mileage Z diff.
Doing a Z28 diff swap would require new axles, and driveshaft as well correct. I have not looked too much into it tbh. Or is this a center cection swap?

My other option is to swap to a true trac unit inside, billet main caps, lpw cover, the axles and driveshaft will be taken care of to support the higher power when its all said and done
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Doing a Z28 diff swap would require new axles, and driveshaft as well correct. I have not looked too much into it tbh. Or is this a center cection swap?

My other option is to swap to a true trac unit inside, billet main caps, lpw cover, the axles and driveshaft will be taken care of to support the higher power when its all said and done
Easy diff swap already have 1LE axles and a set of 1LE/ZL1/Z28 hub bearings.
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You might wanna get rid of the clutch pack LSD and go with a gear driven like a tru trac or a eatin found in the Z28. I scored a really low mileage Z diff.
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Have you installed your Z28 diff?
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Old 09-02-2023, 08:46 AM   #28
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you're looking in the wrong places if you're paying 2500 for used diff/axles and you can offset the cost by selling your stock diff/axles.

I know a lot of guys think they can save money here but it's not a place to skimp... long term youll be buying stuff again after it breaks. I've had a stock diff, a stock diff with 4.11s, a zl1 diff, and now a solid axle. I have experience with them and can tell you that a stock diff next to a zl1 is no comparison.
Man please show me where you can find a ZL1 diff for cheaper than$2500 I’d have luck finding one for that price.
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