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khell86 · 12-20-2014, 10:09 AM

I agree with Nine Ball. This looks like a cooling issue. Once more of these get out there and start racing, we'll know for sure.

*mlee* · 12-20-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by khell86

I agree with Nine Ball. This looks like a cooling issue. Once more of these get out there and start racing, we'll know for sure.

Where did he say it was a cooling issue...

All cars will lose power from being hot on a dyno.

khell86 · 12-20-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Where did he say it was a cooling issue...

All cars will lose power from being hot on a dyno.

I know he didn't. I'm agreeing with his notion that this isnt a tuning issue from the factory as some sort of a safe mode till they've done 1500 miles or what not. Dyno's have proven these cars are putting out what they're supposed to at early miles. I'm saying it looks like it could be a cooling issue. Very bad heat soak causing issues after a few runs and what not. The motortrend example and the video of the viper vs z06 seems to showcase that.

SEVEN-OH JOE · 12-20-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by khell86

I know he didn't. I'm agreeing with his notion that this isnt a tuning issue from the factory as some sort of a safe mode till they've done 1500 miles or what not. Dyno's have proven these cars are putting out what they're supposed to at early miles. I'm saying it looks like it could be a cooling issue. Very bad heat soak causing issues after a few runs and what not. The motortrend example and the video of the viper vs z06 seems to showcase that.

If this is the case, then why has NO ONE published excessive IATs while running their back-to-back-to-back dyno sessions?

It's still CONJECTURE, without substantive proof from anyone regarding anything.

khell86 · 12-20-2014, 01:06 PM

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If this is the case, then why has NO ONE published excessive IATs while running their back-to-back-to-back dyno sessions?

It's still CONJECTURE, without substantive proof from anyone regarding anything.

I would hope that a few back to back dyno runs wouldnt show a cooling issue, otherwise the Z06 has a huge issue on its hand. Yes, it is all conjecture though.

TJ91 · 12-21-2014, 04:55 AM

isn't it common knowledge to close windows when racing? Drag anyone?

*mlee* · 12-21-2014, 05:29 AM

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isn't it common knowledge to close windows when racing? Drag anyone?

When you're using the horn as a starter or have dark tint you roll the window down. Street race anyone?

ilirg · 12-28-2014, 12:30 PM

Z taking out a GTR and Viper TA http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6amJIGiGXdQ

Another Z taking out a Viper TA ( Viper did have a passenger though)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=y...&v=wPRwib8n_Xs

2010-1SS-IBM · 12-28-2014, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ilirg

Z taking out a GTR and Viper TA http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6amJIGiGXdQ

Another Z taking out a Viper TA ( Viper did have a passenger though)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=y...&v=wPRwib8n_Xs

Unpossible! Everyone who's a "car guy" knows the Z06 is a dog; just listen to the guys on the internet!

KMPrenger · 12-28-2014, 10:18 PM

Well...so does that settle that? lol

May not settle the possible heat soak "issue" but sure does seem to show that the Z can keep up with, or whoop up on the Viper in a roll race.

GretchenGotGrowl · 12-30-2014, 08:22 AM

Just more data points. We probably won't have a good feel for things until we see more of each in head-to-head match ups.

BaylorCamaro · 12-30-2014, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

When you're using the horn as a starter or have dark tint you roll the window down. Street race anyone?

Of course not! This is Camaro5 and no one here street races!!!

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KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Well...so does that settle that? lol May not settle the possible heat soak "issue" but sure does seem to show that the Z can keep up with, or whoop up on the Viper in a roll race. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

12-30-2014, 08:22 AM	#123
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Just more data points. We probably won't have a good feel for things until we see more of each in head-to-head match ups. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

12-20-2014, 10:09 AM	#113
khell86 Drives: 2012 Ford Focus Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 394	I agree with Nine Ball. This looks like a cooling issue. Once more of these get out there and start racing, we'll know for sure.

12-28-2014, 12:30 PM	#120
ilirg Drives: 2011 Camaro 2ss Join Date: May 2013 Location: nj Posts: 1,559	Z taking out a GTR and Viper TA http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6amJIGiGXdQ Another Z taking out a Viper TA ( Viper did have a passenger though) http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=y...&v=wPRwib8n_Xs