2010 Supercharged Camaro vs. ZL1

[Fiftydriver]

I would have to agree, you can put $10 to $15K into your 2010 and have twice the car as the ZL1. Not only will it handle with the ZL1, it will have far more power then the ZR1 corvette!!!

I have nothing against the ZL1, great car, but its not hard to improve upon it in terms of performance.

Now, it your wanting a factory warrantee for the full extent of what is offered by GM, certainly get the ZL1.

[Lucas Camaro]

Well said. I can't thank you guys enough for your advice. I wanted to see alternative perspectives and try to finally come to a reasonable decision. Either way...I can't lose. It's a win/win in my book!! And I couldn't agree more- it is an AMAZING time to be a Camaro enthusiast!!!

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Maybe. But after I made my statement, I tried...spec for spec to mimic the ZL1. From tires, wheels, and exterior aero bits...to the clutch, driveshaft, diff, half-shafts, suspension, brakes, engine, and exhaust.

It came to about 72,000 total, including a 2SS/RS. I assure you - I was being as frugal as possible. But that was....EVERYTHING.

If a person only wants to build a car for Drag Racing, or even a Drag Racer with some excellence in the corners, you can absolutely come in under the ceiling of the ZL1. But you can't build something that is truly equivalent or better for less. And you certainly can't do it with a warranty. If you could - Chevy would have failed.

Then, using your own logic, why doesn't a ZL1 cost 72k dollars? Come on....man. Plus he already owns his car...he's not buying another one to build. You are skewing the numbers to make your point.

20k it can be done..easily. It would be faster straight line and it's equal at a road track.

Maybe - but I'm no expert driver.

And I didn't mean for this to become a "ZL1 versus all of the aftermarket" thread. I apologize! I don't believe that to be an issue in the least. However, I did want to try and lay as many options on the table for the OP as possible.

You have to admit - today is a GREAT day to be a Camaro enthusiast. There is just SO much out there. Both from the factory and the aftermarket!

Couldn't agree more...great day to be a car enthusiast in general with a lot of pretty attractive choices.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Lucas Camaro

Well said. I can't thank you guys enough for your advice. I wanted to see alternative perspectives and try to finally come to a reasonable decision. Either way...I can't lose. It's a win/win in my book!! And I couldn't agree more- it is an AMAZING time to be a Camaro enthusiast!!!

Quoted for the truth....you can't really lose either way if you are looking for an amazing machine. The ZL1 has a lot going for it so I don't want to come off as anti-ZL1. It's a badass factory production car with a warranty that will be a collectable car some day.

[Blue Menace]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

Then, using your own logic, why doesn't a ZL1 cost 72k dollars? Come on....man. Plus he already owns his car...he's not buying another one to build. You are skewing the numbers to make your point.

20k it can be done..easily. It would be faster straight line and it's equal at a road track.

Help me understand this. Regardless of paying for a new camaro or not, 20K puts the price of the car anywhere from 52-55K. Now, with no warranty, you will certainly have to add costs for repairs which will certainly happen. What does this bring the price up to? I'm not seeing how you are saving any money in the long run.

[flyby]

I think a bigger aspect is being overlooked. If you have a three year old Camaro already you have most of the bugs worked out and most of the warranty gone except for the power train. I know of a few guys on here who had troubles at the track and were not covered under warranty, even though the car was not modified. Who can guarantee that when you take the ZL-1 to a drag strip or road course and blow something up that GM will cover it? At least if you modify your three year old car, void the power train warranty you have no surprises.

[Strzelec]

In my opinion if you upgrade the hell out of your current Camaro you will take away the resale value. Think about it, if you were buying a new car and saw one totally modified (translation probably drove hard because of the mods) or one stock and took care of which one would you prefer?

Now just because it's modified doesn't mean it was ran hard but that's what the general public will think. In my opinion you will be better off if you can get the ZL1 and with it you will get a lot more respect from the people in the know. Resale value is not lost cause of questions about how and who modified it and was it done right, will it still be dependable blah blah blah.

Get the ZL1, in the long run you will be much happier and have a warranty.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Blue Menace

Help me understand this. Regardless of paying for a new camaro or not, 20K puts the price of the car anywhere from 52-55K. Now, with no warranty, you will certainly have to add costs for repairs which will certainly happen. What does this bring the price up to? I'm not seeing how you are saving any money in the long run.

He already owns his car......and my car will run away from a ZL1 in a straight line like it was towing a camper. If starting from scratch I would positively say buy the ZL1...you are way ahead starting with that but if you already have an SS then you will lose another 10-15k on the trade and depreciation...at LEAST.

The difference maker to me, is whether you already own an SS to build.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Strzelec

In my opinion if you upgrade the hell out of your current Camaro you will take away the resale value. Think about it, if you were buying a new car and saw one totally modified (translation probably drove hard because of the mods) or one stock and took care of which one would you prefer?

Now just because it's modified doesn't mean it was ran hard but that's what the general public will think. In my opinion you will be better off if you can get the ZL1 and with it you will get a lot more respect from the people in the know. Resale value is not lost cause of questions about how and who modified it and was it done right, will it still be dependable blah blah blah.

Get the ZL1, in the long run you will be much happier and have a warranty.

Lol..resale value. That's funny....it's a Camaro, they have no resale value just like any other car.

[Strzelec]

Shows your ignorance, I see lots of threads on here about good money people are getting on resale. Resale on a ZL1 will be much bettter than on a modded out beat up camaro.

[Blue Menace]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

He already owns his car......and my car will run away from a ZL1 in a straight line like it was towing a camper. If starting from scratch I would positively say buy the ZL1...you are way ahead starting with that but if you already have an SS then you will lose another 10-15k on the trade and depreciation...at LEAST.

The difference maker to me, is whether you already own an SS to build.

However, for most "already owns the car" probably means making payments. If you really have already paid outright for the car, I agree that moding would be the way to go. I suppose it comes down to how far into the payments you are. If you aren't that far in, I don't see you saving that much cash.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Strzelec

Shows your ignorance, I see lots of threads on here about good money people are getting on resale. Resale on a ZL1 will be much bettter than on a modded out beat up camaro.

You call ME ignorant in the same post you claim people make money on a used car...that's comedy genius right there. What you are seeing is people who might not be getting hammered as badly as they expected....but that does not mean they are not coming out upside down.

Listen...I don't have a dog in this fight....I don't really care, have very little interest in a ZL1 because, while it's a great car, it isn't even close to the car I would want it to be at the track. If it is YOUR cup of tea then buy one and enjoy it.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Blue Menace

However, for most "already owns the car" probably means making payments. If you really have already paid outright for the car, I agree that moding would be the way to go. I suppose it comes down to how far into the payments you are. If you aren't that far in, I don't see you saving that much cash.

Man you guys just aren't thinking this through....sure payments are one thing but where you LOSE is when you go to trade your SS. The minute you buy the car and drive it off the lot you lost 7 to 10k dollars....if it's a couple of years old then it will be more than that.

[Strzelec]

You call ME ignorant in the same post you claim people make money on a used car...that's comedy genius right there. What you are seeing is people who might not be getting hammered as badly as they expected....but that does not mean they are not coming out upside down.

OK you win I'm ignorant, but I still say no matter what year it is a ZL1 will have much greater value than any modded out camaro.