05-20-2019, 03:45 PM | #1 |
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When is a cage required?
Was at my local track this pass weekend and was given a unoffical warning I was near the cage required time. He didnt tell me what it was and I didnt think to ask as I was leaving anyways (only did 3 passes then test and tune was over) until after I got home. I tried looking it up here and on google and couldnt find anything that is set in stone. I was hoping someone here knows exactly when i need a cage. Below is my times. Thank you!
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05-20-2019, 03:47 PM | #2 |
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05-20-2019, 04:19 PM | #3 |
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NHRA national and divisional races require clear glass around the vehicle, subject to check. Local races vary, check with your division or track.
13.99 1/4-mile (8.59 1/8-mile) or quicker: -A driveshaft safety loop is required when you run slicks (not drag radials or street tires). With street tires or drag radials, no loop is required until 11.49 1/4-mile (7.35 1/8-mile) and faster. -A helmet (closed face or open) is required with a minimum Snell K98 or M2000/SA2000 rating. Helmets last 12 years from their rating date (example a Snell 2005 would be good until 2017). Shield is not required. 11.99 1/4-mile ( 1/8-mile) or quicker: -Metal screw-in valve stems required on tubeless tires on all wheels. 11.49 1/4-mile (7.35 1/8-mile) or quicker: -A 5-point minimum roll bar on a fixed roof car (t-tops okay as well if in place while racing) from 11.49 to 11.00 (7.00 1/8-mile). If the hardtop / t-top car has un-altered floors, firewall and frame rails (wheel tubs are okay), then the 5-point roll bar is good til 10.00 1/4 mile (6.40 1/8-mile). Convertibles require the 5-point bar from 13.49 (8.25 1/8-mile to 11.00 (7.00 1/8-mile). The rollbar must be constructed of minimum 1 ¾ inch o.d. x .118 inch wall mild steel tubing, or 1 ¾ x .083 chrome moly tubing. The roll bar can be bolted or welded to the floor, see diagram for specs. Roll bar must be padded anywhere the driver's helmet may contact it while in the driving position. Don't know how accurate this is (written a few years ago) but hope it helps!
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05-20-2019, 04:35 PM | #4 |
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Awesome thank you! My buddy was saying newer camaros mustangs and challengers don’t need them until 10’s (quarter mile) but i think he was just saying it to try to get me to push her a little harder next time.
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05-20-2019, 10:26 PM | #5 | |
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That's the old rules. All 5th Gen Camaros Coupes need a 6 point roll bar if you run quicker than 6.39 in the 1/8 or 10.00 in 1/4 or faster than 135 MPH. 10 point is required with quicker and faster times but you are no where near those requirements. The track was telling you the old rules. |
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05-20-2019, 10:28 PM | #6 |
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So I don’t need a cage until 6.39 1/8th mile? If so that’s sweet! I will keep on going then haha thanks guys I appreciate the help.
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05-22-2019, 11:30 AM | #9 |
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definitely needed this info. thanks all
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05-28-2019, 01:28 PM | #10 |
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At my local track, the 2008 & newer rules only apply in "Street Legal Points Series" races. Other races, apparently the 11.49 rule still applies. I could have received incorrect information, but it was a track official that I heard it from. Doesn't really matter to me because I've yet to crack the 11s.
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05-28-2019, 02:59 PM | #12 |
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Thanks, Chris. It's really not even that big of a deal to me at this point. I'm enjoying the racing and I've kind of switched tactics to trying to run more consistently so I can win some races. I'll probably get serious about running 11s this fall when the weather cools off. Another board member that runs at our local track is driving to Seattle to try to get his car in the 11s at sea level. I gotta admire the dedication!
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GPI SS2; EE E2 catch can; SP 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ hfc; FM AT 3" cat-back; CAI Cold Air Intake; AEM Wideband
Tuned by GPI McCleod RXT; MGW flat stick; Ram Clutch slave cylinder & hydraulic adjuster BMR cradle & diff bushings, trailing arms, toe rods & upper control arm bushings Hotchkis sub-frame brace Stop Tech Z-23 brakes 4.10 gears, Eaton Truetrac, LPW diff cover Best 1/4 mile 12.073 @ 115.68 mph 3,300 ft DA |
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