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The SwiftChancelor · 10-29-2011, 07:36 AM

I work with a guy who has an old 70's Duster that he has restored and added a bigger block in it. He tells me it has 400hp at the crank. When I first got my SS he said he would want to do a hamburger run and I wasn't sure but know I think I could take him. I got guys at work thinking he'll win and some thinking I will. He assumes he's putting out around 275hp at the rear wheels and I've seen the stock dyno's with the SS putting out 300rwhp or more, give or take. I've only upgraded to a K&N CAI and a Solo J-pipe axle-back exhaust. So what do you all think, do I have this in the bag? We can go to a local drag strip and run 'em.

coolman · 10-29-2011, 08:01 AM

Depends on what he did to remove weight out of the duster. You can make them really lite if you put a lot of work in. Although that's not much HP for a "bigger block"(I think you mean big block). The only way to really know is to race.

SGOS252382 · 10-29-2011, 08:06 AM

As mentioned, it all depends on his setup. He could be real slow or fast depending on the overall setup of his car.

1. What's his real HP rating?
2. What kind of weight has been removed?
3. What's his wheel and tire setup (that's a big give away).
4. Gear ratio/stall speed if auto - could be running very steep gearing if he's into drag racing.
5.?

But if he's really only making 275 rwhp, he's probably not all that fast unless he's really geared up with lots of weight reduction.

casper sc/1ss/rs · 10-29-2011, 08:30 AM

line them up and see

im curious

Shadow Camaro · 10-29-2011, 08:38 AM

i thought the SS dynoed at like 370 at the wheels? 100-126 drivetrain loss seems super high :(

ckaram · 10-29-2011, 08:56 AM

He's lighter but if he's really 275 at the wheels you should walk him. Be careful, if I were him I'd be sandbagging you too...

usa1camaro1969 · 10-29-2011, 09:56 AM

Duster was a plymouth.
Line them up. He may be all talk but either way you'll have fun.

SGOS252382 · 10-29-2011, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Camaro

i thought the SS dynoed at like 370 at the wheels? 100-126 drivetrain loss seems super high :(

Anywhere from 350-380 rwhp depending on the dyno and type of correction factor used.
426x.15=63.9
426-63.9=362.1

So around 360 rwhp would be right in line for a 426hp LS3 M6 (manually equipped car).

But he has a L99 A6.
400 x .18 (auto)=72
400-72=328 rwhp.
So around 330 rwhp would be right for a 400hp (automatic).

Stock L99s dyno anywhere from 300-330 rwhp depending on the dyno and tune of the car (around 320 rwhp is most common). Lots of L99s are running around on the low octane tune and only dyno down around 300 rwhp. But with a tune, these cars jump to around 330 rwhp.

The SwiftChancelor · 10-29-2011, 12:33 PM

No, I did mean bigger block. He had a smaller engine before and added the bigger sized engine. Yes it is a big block but I did mean bigger than before.
Yes I'm sure his car is a lot lighter. His is also an automatic like mine. He does have the larger wheels in the back and little ones in the front and I know he likes to put racing fuel in it during the cruise. He literally want's to run'em for a hamburger so I feel if I did lose I'd be out the cost to run a drag and the gas it cost to get there more than anything. I think I'd take him though hes already telling me what he likes on his burger. Haha.

metthem · 10-29-2011, 01:32 PM

Great, Now I want a hamburger. I see you are from kentucky, there is a place in Covington called Cosmos, they have great burgers, and they come with steak fries.

Camarowguy · 10-29-2011, 02:47 PM

Why do I keep clicking on the SS vs. threads?

MMC · 10-29-2011, 05:54 PM

Plymoiuth=Duster Dodge=Dart Chrysler=Same car, Tell us the results
These were beautiful cars back in the day.

The SwiftChancelor · 10-30-2011, 08:39 AM

Sorry to everyone who is bothered by me calling this Duster a Dodge. I stand corrected by you, it is a Plymouth. Now I'm not sure if it isn't a Dodge Dart that I'm up against. However, its still a Chrysler product.

ckaram · 10-30-2011, 12:45 PM

Don't apologize, it could be a Dodge Demon:

10-29-2011, 07:36 AM	#1
The SwiftChancelor Drives: SGM, 2011 2SS/RS, L99 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wildcat Country Posts: 593 View My Garage	Camaro SS vs. Plymouth Duster I work with a guy who has an old 70's Duster that he has restored and added a bigger block in it. He tells me it has 400hp at the crank. When I first got my SS he said he would want to do a hamburger run and I wasn't sure but know I think I could take him. I got guys at work thinking he'll win and some thinking I will. He assumes he's putting out around 275hp at the rear wheels and I've seen the stock dyno's with the SS putting out 300rwhp or more, give or take. I've only upgraded to a K&N CAI and a Solo J-pipe axle-back exhaust. So what do you all think, do I have this in the bag? We can go to a local drag strip and run 'em. __________________ K&N air intake, Solo w/Jpipes axleback, SP 1 7/8 LT headers Last edited by The SwiftChancelor; 11-05-2011 at 07:40 AM.

10-29-2011, 08:38 AM	#5
Shadow Camaro Drives: Rally Yellow 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairhope, Alabama Posts: 341	i thought the SS dynoed at like 370 at the wheels? 100-126 drivetrain loss seems super high :( __________________ Rotofab CAI, SW LT Headers and High Flow Cats, SW Cat-Back, Eibach Pro rear wheel spacers, SS Grill Insert, Street Scene Front Splitter, Blacked out rear emblem, blacked out bezels, plasti-dipped lower bumper, plasti-dipped rims with yellow pinstriping, dyed interior stitching yellow, 2x Kicker CVR 12's w/ 1200 watt kicker amp. MORE TO COME!

10-29-2011, 08:56 AM	#6
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	He's lighter but if he's really 275 at the wheels you should walk him. Be careful, if I were him I'd be sandbagging you too... __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

10-29-2011, 09:56 AM	#7
usa1camaro1969 Back on the dino-juice Drives: '10 LS + a few more Join Date: May 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,641	Duster was a plymouth. Line them up. He may be all talk but either way you'll have fun. __________________ I wake up in the morning and I piss excellence. -Ricky Bobby America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936

10-29-2011, 12:33 PM	#9
The SwiftChancelor Drives: SGM, 2011 2SS/RS, L99 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wildcat Country Posts: 593 View My Garage	No, I did mean bigger block. He had a smaller engine before and added the bigger sized engine. Yes it is a big block but I did mean bigger than before. Yes I'm sure his car is a lot lighter. His is also an automatic like mine. He does have the larger wheels in the back and little ones in the front and I know he likes to put racing fuel in it during the cruise. He literally want's to run'em for a hamburger so I feel if I did lose I'd be out the cost to run a drag and the gas it cost to get there more than anything. I think I'd take him though hes already telling me what he likes on his burger. Haha. __________________ K&N air intake, Solo w/Jpipes axleback, SP 1 7/8 LT headers

10-29-2011, 08:01 AM	#2
coolman Guest Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 4,812	Depends on what he did to remove weight out of the duster. You can make them really lite if you put a lot of work in. Although that's not much HP for a "bigger block"(I think you mean big block). The only way to really know is to race.

10-29-2011, 08:06 AM	#3
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	As mentioned, it all depends on his setup. He could be real slow or fast depending on the overall setup of his car. 1. What's his real HP rating? 2. What kind of weight has been removed? 3. What's his wheel and tire setup (that's a big give away). 4. Gear ratio/stall speed if auto - could be running very steep gearing if he's into drag racing. 5.? But if he's really only making 275 rwhp, he's probably not all that fast unless he's really geared up with lots of weight reduction.

10-29-2011, 08:30 AM	#4
casper sc/1ss/rs Drives: 2011 camaro ss vortech supercharged Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: marion VA. Posts: 524 View My Garage	line them up and see im curious

10-29-2011, 01:32 PM	#10
metthem Drives: 2011 LS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 943	Great, Now I want a hamburger. I see you are from kentucky, there is a place in Covington called Cosmos, they have great burgers, and they come with steak fries.

10-29-2011, 02:47 PM	#11
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	Why do I keep clicking on the SS vs. threads? __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

10-29-2011, 05:54 PM	#12
MMC Drives: CGM 2SS/RS, 1987 & 2014 Silverado Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Spencerport, NY Posts: 1,012	Plymoiuth=Duster Dodge=Dart Chrysler=Same car, Tell us the results These were beautiful cars back in the day. __________________

10-30-2011, 08:39 AM	#13
The SwiftChancelor Drives: SGM, 2011 2SS/RS, L99 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wildcat Country Posts: 593 View My Garage	Sorry to everyone who is bothered by me calling this Duster a Dodge. I stand corrected by you, it is a Plymouth. Now I'm not sure if it isn't a Dodge Dart that I'm up against. However, its still a Chrysler product. __________________ K&N air intake, Solo w/Jpipes axleback, SP 1 7/8 LT headers

10-30-2011, 12:45 PM	#14
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	Don't apologize, it could be a Dodge Demon: __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

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