17' Welds won't fit if??

[Wheel Czar]

Question, did your lowering kit change the bump stop in the coilover or did the kit come with new coilovers all together?

[94guy]

all i have are the eibach 1" drop springs.

[kevin1106]

Thats what I have to, except mine are made by BMR... oh well, welds loss.. I'll be happy with my bogarts when I get them in a few weeks.

[lowpro192000]

well I was just wondering were there any issues with the ccw drag pack?

[Wheel Czar]

Originally Posted by kevin1106

Thats what I have to, except mine are made by BMR... oh well, welds loss.. I'll be happy with my bogarts when I get them in a few weeks.

What size and back space did you order? The reason I ask is that a 17 inch wheel is a 17 inch wheel in diameter. You will have to order less back space or width to keep it out from the contact point.

[94guy]

i bought exactly what was recommended by weld and texas speed and they don't clear the lower control arm when you launch.

[Wheel Czar]

Originally Posted by 94guy

i bought exactly what was recommended by weld and texas speed and they don't clear the lower control arm when you launch.

No I was asking about the Bogarts, what size and backspace did you order the Bogarts in?

[kevin1106]

Hit up Perry at PTS. Very nice guy.. upfront.. he will be glad to help you.

[PTS]

ttt

[94guy]

i would like to know what weld plans to do?

[Wheel Czar]

Originally Posted by kevin1106

Hit up Perry at PTS. Very nice guy.. upfront.. he will be glad to help you.

Perry, what size and back space did you order for the Bogart wheels for this application?

[SJM]

Wheel Czar (weld racing), though a competitor, I understand where they (Weld) are coming from so it's a bit difficult to hit every situation on par. Sometimes things bite you in the butt when it comes to fitment issues. Sometimes it's difficult to foresee a modification that is made towards a customer’s car. Worst of all, with the aftermarket components available, it is difficult to meet each demand. Even something overlooked as simple as a brake line or brake line bung can become a hiccup in the final outcome.

I would not advise modifying a swing arm as Tony also mentioned. I could have not said it better with regards to the analogy Tony gave. It is not my place to say what weld should or shouldn't do so I will leave it up to them to decide on how they want to rectify their situation. It appears they have given their answers.

Since our Bogart wheel has been brought into this conversation, I'll comment with regards to our stuff. Our Bogart designs haven't had any fitment issues which I'm aware of. One concern would be the new brake pad design of which was not out when we created our designs. I don't know anyone to date of which has the new design on their car...so I cannot comment regarding fitment. I'd suggest if fitment is an issue with the new brake pad design to continue using the original style…or modify the new style. It is not a structural component that has changed the brake pads. There's only so much we can do to a wheel.

From the first set that we built for a maroon 2010 Camaro to date (I can't recall the nickname of the poster on member on here...maybe he will chime in), fitment hasn't been an issue…lowered or OEM.

The wheels to answer the above question are typically set at ~10" close to 7" backspace. Unlike weld, our niche is customization, so we are building setups that are set to each application, not a one size fits most approach. When you order one of our wheels, they are truly a customized wheel for the application. You are not receiving a mass produced product. When you place an order, wheels are built for your car. Each part needed towards assembly is tagged under your name/company throughout the process.

It would be nice to have a one size wheel fit most, but that doesn't always work in reality....at least when you're trying to stuff a small diameter wheel on a large brake configuration.

Perry,

Give me a call if you need further assistance or you’d like to start carrying our Bogart designs. I know you've spoke with Rich a few times, feel free to give me a call or email me if you did want to continue considering a dealership program...I may be able to help you in a few other areas as well.

Steve
Mechanical Engineer

[94guy]

Sjm, weld has not made good on the wheels. also they claim they are custom made when you order. you say not to grind the lower control arm well if you don't you have to buy $500 lower control arms.

[SRT10KLLR]

Originally Posted by kevin1106

I agree with everyone on this page... Why sell/make a drag wheel for a stock car... I swear it doesn't make sense.

"Well, If I had a stock car, I wouldn't need/want your rims!!"

So to the people at Weld... Let try to do it right this time.... Let make a rim for a modded Camaro... Let me these available for people who might really need these...

Ummmmm, best Idea I've heard all day...

I've never bought a Welds before... and I'm sure not going to now.. Not when there are other options out there. Weld

There are plenty of cars with "stock" suspensions that race and want 17" wheels. That is what they were designed for not for a dropped car.

I have ran 10.9 in the 1/4 and know several low(10.1-10.3) cars running on stock suspensions. You don't have to lower our car to make it fast. I am about to put a TT setup on my brothers Camaro and hope to get into the 9's and it has stock suspension except for the BMR trailing arms.

I take stock to mean stock ride height not stock as in no engine mods at least in the context of Weld Wheels.

Looks like they did not test and were not aware of fitment issues when they sold their first sets but now acknowledge that there are problems so will not warranty if you have a dropped car. They probably should work something out with 94guy since they did not test fit on a lowered car and to avoid bad press. He was essentially their guinie pig. For every one else who has a lowered car don't buy there wheels until they have a solution for you or just don't buy from them period.