turbo 4-manual vs 8spd auto?

BlueShadow · 12-20-2019, 01:19 AM

Hello everybody,

I was going to be looking at some Camaro turbo 4's tomorrow and i just needed some quick info about the auto ones. Last time i looked at a turbo car was around 20 years ago. I was looking at FD RX7's, MKIV Supra's, and 3000GT VR4's. With those older turbo cars i remember people saying that the auto tranny versions weren't all that great so i stayed away from them.

So with the Camaro turbo 4 is the same thing true of manual vs auto? i was wondering about not only performance between the two but also if any issues will come up when i start modding the auto to like 350-450 or more WHP. I'm doing some quick googling to find out what info i can but i also thought i would post on here. I needed an answer kinda fast since i'll be going car shopping tomorrow and this weekend too.

thanks!

RobbyBeefcake87 · 12-20-2019, 07:47 AM

I'd say go manual, idk about the i4 but on the ss the a8 is slightly faster in a straight line but not enough to really matter stock. The a8s have converter shudder issues, which apparently is easily remedied now days but the manual tremec is solid and wont give you issues. Its the same tremec used on the gt350. Just my 2 cents.

Camaro_QC · 12-20-2019, 07:48 AM

Lots of shudder issue with the A8 trans... I personally got the manual and don't have any complaint.

I have test driven an A8 and really didn't like the feeling. The shifts are very slow and my girlfriend even said that the car sounded like a lawn mower...

GuywithL86 · 12-20-2019, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro_QC

Lots of shudder issue with the A8 trans... I personally got the manual and don't have any complaint.

I have test driven an A8 and really didn't like the feeling. The shifts are very slow and my girlfriend even said that the car sounded like a lawn mower...

I’m not sure what camaro you drove but the ‘16 ss a8 I rented had the fastest shifting auto I’ve ever driven. The 1-2 shift felt like it got rear ended. There is no way anybody with a manual is coming close to that unless they are abusing the living hell out if it.

Edit:oh wait you might be talking about the one with the 4cyl, yeah I’d be hesitant to buy that

JLz06 · 12-20-2019, 09:05 AM

Anything with 300hp or less is always way more fun with a manual.

Camaro_QC · 12-20-2019, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

I’m not sure what camaro you drove but the ‘16 ss a8 I rented had the fastest shifting auto I’ve ever driven. The 1-2 shift felt like it got rear ended. There is no way anybody with a manual is coming close to that unless they are abusing the living hell out if it.

Edit:oh wait you might be talking about the one with the 4cyl, yeah I’d be hesitant to buy that

Yeah this whole thread was about the I4 haha

HCI2000SS · 12-20-2019, 09:42 AM

I can tell you that even the V6 with 335 hp is faster with the auto vs manual trans. Just the gearing alone is significantly steeper. Combine that with the faster shift time, and it will beat the manual every time. I actually ran one from a guy I met at a local car event. I wanna say he said the stock gear was a 3.27 if I remember right.

Camaro_QC · 12-20-2019, 10:35 AM

But, the MLS is pretty awesome and makes the shift go pretty quick when done properly.

kropscamaro16 · 12-20-2019, 11:04 AM

your already buying the base model engine might as well splurge for a manual haha but for reals id go manual

arpad_m · 12-20-2019, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

I’m not sure what camaro you drove but the ‘16 ss a8 I rented had the fastest shifting auto I’ve ever driven. The 1-2 shift felt like it got rear ended. There is no way anybody with a manual is coming close to that unless they are abusing the living hell out if it.

Edit:oh wait you might be talking about the one with the 4cyl, yeah I’d be hesitant to buy that

I'm not a manual guy per se, have the A8 as well and thoroughly enjoying it, but NLS in capable hands is pretty darn amazing, see example here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4o22B6WIzhY&t=91s

metros11 · 12-22-2019, 11:41 AM

Well, considering this is posted in the 1LE forum, I'd suggest a manual. I had a Turbo 4 rental with an auto, and I found it to be quick but laggy.

Nabush · 12-23-2019, 05:35 PM

4 cylinder Auto does not have an LSD, to take into consideration also...

Whitespeed · 12-23-2019, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metros11

Well, considering this is posted in the 1LE forum, I'd suggest a manual. I had a Turbo 4 rental with an auto, and I found it to be quick but laggy.

Doesn't look like you can get the turbo 4 1LE with the auto anyway, so I'm not sure why this is being discussed here in the first place?

Nigel

wookwook · 12-23-2019, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLz06

Anything with 300hp or less is always way more fun with a manual.

FIRST since you posted so close to the SS nether regions you can see the turbo envy up close. you should be scouring the I4 section lower down.

clearly OP is after budget and modability so if you like to tinker the I4 M6 is the way to go. There isn't a huge 400 hp+ aftermarket out there just yet... you'll be needing a tune and some bolt ons to get into the 30-40 percent increases, easily had for a couple grand. . 2018 2T M6. Never mind the rental stories, this car moves just fine with a couple of tweaks, and - you can leave the $25K ego at the door. SS price premium is roughly 2K for each MPH more at the quarter mile. SS 113 @ 12.5 (real world) vs 2T 103 @ 13.6

drivers car, autoross, driveway add-ons - M6
Mash the gas and add-ons - A8

12-20-2019, 01:19 AM	#1
BlueShadow Drives: 2019 Chevrolet Camaro 2.0T 6spd Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Somewhere in California Posts: 79	turbo 4-manual vs 8spd auto? Hello everybody, I was going to be looking at some Camaro turbo 4's tomorrow and i just needed some quick info about the auto ones. Last time i looked at a turbo car was around 20 years ago. I was looking at FD RX7's, MKIV Supra's, and 3000GT VR4's. With those older turbo cars i remember people saying that the auto tranny versions weren't all that great so i stayed away from them. So with the Camaro turbo 4 is the same thing true of manual vs auto? i was wondering about not only performance between the two but also if any issues will come up when i start modding the auto to like 350-450 or more WHP. I'm doing some quick googling to find out what info i can but i also thought i would post on here. I needed an answer kinda fast since i'll be going car shopping tomorrow and this weekend too. thanks!

12-20-2019, 07:47 AM	#2
RobbyBeefcake87 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 1,980	I'd say go manual, idk about the i4 but on the ss the a8 is slightly faster in a straight line but not enough to really matter stock. The a8s have converter shudder issues, which apparently is easily remedied now days but the manual tremec is solid and wont give you issues. Its the same tremec used on the gt350. Just my 2 cents. __________________ 2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar. 2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights.

12-20-2019, 07:48 AM	#3
Camaro_QC Drives: 08 Tiburon GS, 2018 Camaro 2.0T Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Québec Posts: 1,660	Lots of shudder issue with the A8 trans... I personally got the manual and don't have any complaint. I have test driven an A8 and really didn't like the feeling. The shifts are very slow and my girlfriend even said that the car sounded like a lawn mower... __________________ 2018 Camaro LS \| 6 spd \| 2.0L turbo \| Nightfall Grey \| RS package \| Technology Package. --------------------- Order WDGHKX 1100 - 5/08/2018 \| 3800 - 6/18/2018 2000 - 5/09/2018 \| 4200 - 6/21/2018 3000 - 5/28/2018 \| 5000 - 6/27/2018 6000 - 6/29/2018

12-20-2019, 09:05 AM	#5
JLz06 Drives: Chevy Camaro Join Date: May 2019 Location: FL Posts: 31	Anything with 300hp or less is always way more fun with a manual. __________________ Current Garage: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE 2002 Corvette Z06 1999 Carrera 1998 Camaro Z28

12-20-2019, 10:35 AM	#8
Camaro_QC Drives: 08 Tiburon GS, 2018 Camaro 2.0T Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Québec Posts: 1,660	But, the MLS is pretty awesome and makes the shift go pretty quick when done properly. __________________ 2018 Camaro LS \| 6 spd \| 2.0L turbo \| Nightfall Grey \| RS package \| Technology Package. --------------------- Order WDGHKX 1100 - 5/08/2018 \| 3800 - 6/18/2018 2000 - 5/09/2018 \| 4200 - 6/21/2018 3000 - 5/28/2018 \| 5000 - 6/27/2018 6000 - 6/29/2018

12-20-2019, 09:42 AM	#7
HCI2000SS Drives: 2018 Camaro V6/RS Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: MI Posts: 1,596	I can tell you that even the V6 with 335 hp is faster with the auto vs manual trans. Just the gearing alone is significantly steeper. Combine that with the faster shift time, and it will beat the manual every time. I actually ran one from a guy I met at a local car event. I wanna say he said the stock gear was a 3.27 if I remember right.

12-20-2019, 11:04 AM	#9
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,817	your already buying the base model engine might as well splurge for a manual haha but for reals id go manual __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

12-22-2019, 11:41 AM	#11
metros11 Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: North Jersey Posts: 776	Well, considering this is posted in the 1LE forum, I'd suggest a manual. I had a Turbo 4 rental with an auto, and I found it to be quick but laggy.

12-23-2019, 05:35 PM	#12
Nabush Drives: 2017 C7 GS M7 / 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Idaho Posts: 198	4 cylinder Auto does not have an LSD, to take into consideration also...

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