2010 Camaro engine bay showing DI 3.6L V6 LLT engine ?

[COPO_Chevy]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

lol don't every automaker do it

But now heres were GM can shine and take there own steps away from what everybody else does and really knock there socks off

[Xanthos]

I don't know if anybody has posted this, but heres a youtube video of a 2008 CTS with the LLT being taken around a race track. The driver's speech annoyed me a bit, but you can hear the engine pretty well - and, one must assume that the sound dampening in the camaro wouldn't be as good as that in a caddy. Now just put some flowmasters on it, and maybe a dual exhaust kit...

[COPO_Chevy]

Originally Posted by XanthosV6

I don't know if anybody has posted this, but heres a youtube video of a 2008 CTS with the LLT being taken around a race track. The driver's speech annoyed me a bit, but you can hear the engine pretty well - and, one must assume that the sound dampening in the camaro wouldn't be as good as that in a caddy. Now just put some flowmasters on it, and maybe a dual exhaust kit...

good find, sounds really good. I'v heard alot thought that flowmasters sound really nice but can hamper performance in some instances..just saying wat i heard good vid though!

[warbird81]

i want to see pictures of the v8 engine bay. i know that the v6 will kick ass but i want to see the engine bay of the v8

[COPO_Chevy]

^ +1 makes me giddy inside thinking about it

[camaro5]

Somewhat interesting comments and now we're "Hotshots" and "Fan-boys"

SOURCE:http://news.windingroad.com/body-sty...os-v-6-engine/


Reader Annie just made our afternoon by tipping in with some under-the-hood images of what would appear to be the V-6 powered 2010 Chevrolet Camaro from the hotshots at Camaro5.com.

By all accounts the V-6 in question looks to be a 3.6-liter unit, likely equipped with direct injection technology identifiable by the telling “hump” at the back of the motor, as well as the vacuum tube entering the manifold. If DI is indeed the case, output figures of around 300 horsepower wouldn’t be at all shocking for the base Camaro. A new standard-setter for entry-level pony sports cars? Early returns look good.

[Dark Eric]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I thought that that the 911 has a flat 6 ("boxer")?

Yeah its a flat 6, when I said V6s, I meant 6 cylinder period. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Dark Eric, you seem to be an open-minded kinda guy...so I'll just touch on some of the things you spoke about.


That's what it gets in the CTS, right? The CTS wieghs 3874lbs with that engine. We expect the V8 Camaro to be about the same weight as the most recent GTO, so about 3700lbs. In the G8, the difference between V6, and V8 weights of the car is 110lbs. And both the DI V6, and the regular V6 wiegh about the same.

So: a V6 Camaro should wieght somewhere around 3600lbs. That's at least a 250lb difference. Is it too hard to expect 18/27 mpg out of the V6 model?


Then you just hit the two primary factors that both have a LOT of say in the decision average buyers will make. Those, and percieved fuel economy benefits.

And, (I'm not trying to be sarcastic or a smartass or anything) believe it or not, not everybody wants the temperament and power of a V8. Some are scared of it, others look down on pushrod technology, still others just hear about a 'V8' in a car, and think 'evil' (for whatever reason)


I'm not going to argue with your numbers...but I'll just say I think you underestimate this engine. Not a bad thing; just one more surprise in a few months.

Finally...This is probably me overthinking things -- but I still want to put it out there: I have a sneaking suspicion that GM is 'tampering' with the V6 for the Camaro...What I find very hard to believe is that they'd simply transplant the engine right out of the CTS...

I understand completely. Thanks.

[LS9CamaroSS]

Originally Posted by XanthosV6

I don't know if anybody has posted this, but heres a youtube video of a 2008 CTS with the LLT being taken around a race track. The driver's speech annoyed me a bit, but you can hear the engine pretty well - and, one must assume that the sound dampening in the camaro wouldn't be as good as that in a caddy. Now just put some flowmasters on it, and maybe a dual exhaust kit...

amazing... that sounded awesome and even with that "350Z" engine in the 350 ahead of him he caught up by the end of the vid... so maybe our camaro can catch the 350Z on the twisties... i'd be satisfied with that... straight line speed means nothing if you can't turn it well...

[greysteel_M6]

Originally Posted by eR1c

um, i am alone in my thought on this, but to be honest that engine doesn't look like anything special to me. Forget what the engine can do, but if we are just discussing that engines looks... I'd really like to see a really nicely polished set of air intake tubes, some polished aluminum and/or carbon fiber parts (instead of cheap plastic) and some colored tubing rather than the standard and usual black hoses.

Here are some photos for inspiration ...the last one is a Toyota Camry engine (looks like the Camaro engine at quick glance).

Okay...bring it on, I can take all the criticism from you guys!!!

Carbon fiber? Are you f#cking kidding me? We're talking about a camaro, also the cost needs to be kept down. Judging by the looks of the maro's pics, I'm sure it will have valve covers. I can't reason why you don't give a diddly flip about the technological ambition of this beautiful DI engine; the fact that this will be producing as much power as the stang's V8, or other euro trash turbo'd V6's, rather you're concerned with a flashy bay and woven synthetic materials. You're comparing cars not even in the same league and customs at that, then you throw in a camry's bay that looks like ass....

[mot250]

Originally Posted by Team Monte Carlo SS

ford oughta be unshamed of thereselves the Chevy Camaro v6 will have the same horsepower as the lame ford mustake gt v8 that goes to show you how much ford suck the ford mustake will never be a match for the Camaro ever

Yes I own a 2006 Mustang GT so flame me if you like but I'll try to be nice. Let me first state that though I will most likely never buy a Camaro, I am truly glad they are coming back.

But come-on, a few of the things stated in this thread related to comparing the v6 DI Camaro to other existing cars currently on the market are a bit over the top. Like the quote above from Team Monte Carlo, for example.

In response...

Ford is rumored to have a 300hp v-6 (probably a turbo) in the 2010-2011 timeframe and a 400hp base direct injected v-8 around the same time. Sure, these are mere rumors and not written in stone as much as said Camaro offerings for the 2010 rebirth.

Finally, I'll restress that this is the "rebirth" of the Camaro. Lest you all need reminding, the "mere" 260 hp Mustang v6 and the "mere" 300hp Mustang GT v8 is still 260 and 300 HP more that ANY 2005 thru 2009 Camaro. You must agree that the continued support (sales, general public and aftermarket) for the Mustang has to have something to do with the rebirth of both the Challenger and Camaro. Had the Mustang also gone by the wayside as did the Camaro, I doubt the Camaro (or the Challenger) would be coming back as new 2009 and 2010 models.

Again, I look forward to the new Camaro, even if it only raises the bar of the performance stage for Ford, Pontiac, Mopar, etc. Horray for HP wars!!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by mot250

"mere" 260 hp Mustang v6 and the "mere" 300hp Mustang GT v8 is still 260 and 300 HP more that ANY 2005 thru 2009 Camaro.

210...actually. The mustang has a 210hp V6. Just thought I'd point it out.

[mot250]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

210...actually. The mustang has a 210hp V6. Just thought I'd point it out.

OK, I'll eat crow for that one . I honestly don't give a rat's hind end about the current Mustang V-6 so I'll admit to not verifying the v6 output before posting.

[AirGoya]

Originally Posted by XanthosV6

I don't know if anybody has posted this, but heres a youtube video of a 2008 CTS with the LLT being taken around a race track. The driver's speech annoyed me a bit, but you can hear the engine pretty well - and, one must assume that the sound dampening in the camaro wouldn't be as good as that in a caddy. Now just put some flowmasters on it, and maybe a dual exhaust kit...

After watching that i found this really good video of the cts. They talk about the engine some but its funny too.

[MerF]

Originally Posted by mot250

Sure, these are mere rumors and not written in stone as much as said Camaro offerings for the 2010 rebirth.

We're looking at pictures of the engine in the car, as well as vague testimony from the disciples that drove said car and were blown away by it's performance. I guarantee we'll see our V6 before Ford will.

You must agree that the continued support (sales, general public and aftermarket) for the Mustang has to have something to do with the rebirth of both the Challenger and Camaro.

You won't find many of us that will take that away from Ford. If it hadn't been for them continuing to produce (and improve) the Mustang, there's no telling how the market would have been...but I find it hard to believe that the Camaro would have never come back. The question is, would it have had the 1969 cues like it does if not for the retro thing being so popular in the Mustangs? Dunno.

Oh, and just to poke some fun, if it hadn't been for the fact that the Mustang...through all it's improvements, still was just a cheap (but aesthetically pleasing) car with 200 stupid body-kit models to choose from...then the Camaro and Challenger release wouldn't be so harolded. Look ma, these pony cars will actually perform!

Horray for HP wars!!

Cheers to that, most definitely.