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Old 07-06-2009, 12:55 PM   #15
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correct in theory it does. but you gotta expect clearence issues as well.
Yep. Would take a bit of fabbing, but personally if I was going to spend 6000+ for a turbo, I'd do the work to make sure it was done right.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:14 PM   #16
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You're perfectly entitled to your opinion - just wanted to make sure you weren't just spouting off what you've heard others say just because you heard them say it.

Personally, I think its a good idea in theory. I don't like the muffler replacement part of it though - if I did one, I would use a single turbo and put it where the H-pipe is. Run a Y-pipe into the turbo, and a Y-pipe off of the turbo. It would serve as an X-pipe, but also give the turbo itself a bit better spool from the scavenging of the Y-pipe, and from it not being QUITE so far back.

And I would put a metal shield under it to keep it from getting hit by rocks, water, etc.
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P.S. - Of course, this is all academic because if I ever did go forced induction, it would be through an eaton or similar blower.
i was thinking about STS for my 1lt and your idea sounds like a really good idea.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:41 PM   #17
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I think its a great idea, ill probly do the twin setup when it comes out, I guess it means no warranty void?
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:07 PM   #18
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Just talked to STS, we signed a faxed contract and they are gonna do a turbo system for free for me in 2 weeks time, ill be posting videos then
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:13 PM   #19
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let us know how it works out for sure!!!
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couple problems im seeing, but yet again, im no car expert in the least.

1. Does this system have anything to do with the CAI?
2. Does it replace the pipes all the back to the headers?
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:36 PM   #21
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Cooler air=Denser Air. Denser Air=MORE POWER!
cooler air most certainly does NOT mean denser air all the time. Cooler air USUALLY means denser air.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:01 PM   #22
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I really like the STS systems. Extremely innovative, and they put out some crazy numbers.

Let us know how it goes if you do it!
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:15 AM   #23
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Just build one yourselves... it's not all that complicated. There are benefits to using rear mount systems - mainly the ability to go back to stock rather quickly and keeping the engine bay clear. You do have to solve logistical issues of the oil return (140$ shurflow pumps work great) and the minor fab work to get everything mounted. On a 6psi kit, you wouldn't even need a front mount, although you could if you wanted to.

I don't like STS because they rebadge cheaper gear as being "special" with a hugely inflated price tag. Seriously -- spend 2K and build yourself a far superior setup than having them build one.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:42 AM   #24
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I still say that if it was half as awesome as STS says then at least one manufacturer would use rear mounted turbos. But as far as I know, they all tuck them in really close to the exhaust.

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That does sound like a good location. It would probably get less splash than under hood or rear mounts and you could probably still run a CAI up to the grill for clean, dry air. But, I think you might have to fabricate a new lump in the floor to get enough clearance.

If I was installing a rear mounted turbo I would want to fab up a finned stainless (or aluminum) pipe to bring the compressed air back to the intake and do some charge cooling without adding any extra lag like a separate intercooler would. But the last time I looked at STS's website they seemed to be using a plastic pipe...
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:27 AM   #25
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I still say that if it was half as awesome as STS says then at least one manufacturer would use rear mounted turbos. But as far as I know, they all tuck them in really close to the exhaust.



That does sound like a good location. It would probably get less splash than under hood or rear mounts and you could probably still run a CAI up to the grill for clean, dry air. But, I think you might have to fabricate a new lump in the floor to get enough clearance.

If I was installing a rear mounted turbo I would want to fab up a finned stainless (or aluminum) pipe to bring the compressed air back to the intake and do some charge cooling without adding any extra lag like a separate intercooler would. But the last time I looked at STS's website they seemed to be using a plastic pipe...
Yeah, that was the plan. I think it should be possible - if this car is anything like my 86 was, there will be plenty of gap between the center console and the floor.
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Just noticed! STS has 2010 Camaro kits listed as "coming soon" !

Installing them would probably mean voiding the warranty though, wouldn't it?
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Just noticed! STS has 2010 Camaro kits listed as "coming soon" !

Installing them would probably mean voiding the warranty though, wouldn't it?
V8 kits will be first... they may handle 6's later.
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Just noticed! STS has 2010 Camaro kits listed as "coming soon" !

Installing them would probably mean voiding the warranty though, wouldn't it?
Yes, quite likely voiding the warranty.
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