trade ZL1 in for a 14/15 Viper?

[TobysZL1]

Another good read for you in denial viper fans.
Notice the stats at the very bottom. Yep Gtr kills in almost everything again.


http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...mparison-test/


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[StoutSnout]

Originally Posted by TobysZL1

Another good read for you in denial viper fans.
Notice the stats at the very bottom. Yep Gtr kills in everything again.


http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...mparison-test/


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Fascinating, how does it relate to the OP's question about trading his ZL1?

[TobysZL1]

Originally Posted by StoutSnout

Fascinating, how does it relate to the OP's question about trading his ZL1?

It doesn't but maybe you should read the hole thread instead of butting in and you'll see I'm simply replying to others denials.
I simply just say there is much more car to be had for that price range. Others disagree which is fine but I like to supply the fact.

Now back to internet jumping threads and romper room for you.


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[TobysZL1]

Oh stoutsnout I get it now you have a viper... Oh your butt hurts. It's Okay really...

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[Sigelitest]

I thought the z06 was close to the same performance . U can get all the options on the z06 and still be cheaper than the base viper + it will make it up the driveway with out ripping the front end off lol. I do like the viper just like the z06 more

[ZL1-V]

Nurburgring times.

Nissan GTR 7:19:10 2013

Dodge Viper ACR 7:22:1 2010

Corvette Z06 7:22:68 2011

Notice how old the American cars times were established there! Comparing the 2013 GTR car there is approximately 3 seconds difference. That is pretty close considering that the ability to carry more corner speed with AWD and weight distribution is an advantage. I like both cars and actually see more Nissan GTR on the freeways than Dodge Vipers here in my location in So Cal. So that makes the Viper the rarer car to own. Vettes are like the women here, all strutting their feathers seeking attention. I sat in the Stingray yesterday and it felt comfortable. Of course no Z06's on the lot!

[StoutSnout]

Originally Posted by TobysZL1

Oh stoutsnout I get it now you have a viper... Oh your butt hurts. It's Okay really...

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LOL, what would I be butt hurt about? I never made any claims of world domination by the Viper. If you read the 'hole' thread, you'll see I replied to the OP early on, since I've had experience with both cars. If anyone is coming off butt hurt, it's you.

[TobysZL1]

Originally Posted by ZL1-V

Nurburgring times.

Nissan GTR 7:19:10

Dodge Viper ACR 7:22:1

So approximately 3 seconds difference. That is pretty close considering that the ability to carry more corner speed with AWD was the advantage. I like both cars and actually see more Nissan GTR on the freeways than Dodge Vipers here in my location in So Cal.

That is incorrect. 2015 GTR nismo holds a time of
7:08.68

So it actually crushes it

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[TobysZL1]

Originally Posted by StoutSnout

LOL, what would I be butt hurt about? I never made any claims of world domination by the Viper. If you read the 'hole' thread, you'll see I replied to the OP early on, since I've had experience with both cars. If anyone is coming off butt hurt, it's you.

Just stating fact man. The viper is a Sweet machine. But for it's price tag there is more to be had.
Now looks are always subjective so when it comes down to it the Op is going to get what he likes the best in the looks department more then likely anyways. So to sum it up this thread is pretty stupid, just like 90 percent of them are.
But still kind of fun to post on them for debate reasons.

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[ZL1-V]

Originally Posted by TobysZL1

That is incorrect. 2015 GTR nismo holds a time of
7:08.68

So it actually crushes it

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I forgot they went there again with an improved car. What do you expect with a time gap between runs? I owned a Datsun truck when they were just getting established here in America. The Ring was their goal. Nissan spent big dollars to try and get a better time as seen in the videos which are cool to watch. I do like the car and thought about one but spent the money elsewhere. It is still too sterile looking in some colors. The nicest one I have seen so far was a white one while driving through Pasadena. I also think a lot of GTR owners aren't really into all types of cars as they rarely seem to look at others and give a thumbs up? Trying to live the dream I guess?

[TobysZL1]

Originally Posted by ZL1-V

That is 5 years difference. What will you and I be driving in 5 years time? I owned a Datsun truck when they were just getting established here in America. The Ring was their goal. Nissan spent big dollars to try and get a better time as seen in the videos which are cool to watch. It is still too sterile looking in some colors. The nicest one I have seen so far was a white one while driving through Pasadena. I also think a lot of GTR owners aren't really into all types of cars as they rarely seem to look at others and give a thumbs up? Trying to live the dream I guess?

Just correcting your era man. No need to get cynical.
I do agree with you how snobby GTR owners are though.

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[Raven87]

Originally Posted by TobysZL1

Another good read for you in denial viper fans.
Notice the stats at the very bottom. Yep Gtr kills in almost everything again.


http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...mparison-test/


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Didn't the TA get the quickest lap time and highest Gs? The author did complain about the GTR's tires and brakes (as did the driver Gurney).

The GTR was a half second quicker in the 1/4 which is damned impressive, 11.1 vs 11.6.

[TobysZL1]

Originally Posted by Raven87

Didn't the TA get the quickest lap time and highest Gs? The author did complain about the GTR's tires and brakes (as did the driver Gurney).

The GTR was a half second quicker in the 1/4 which is damned impressive, 11.1 vs 11.6.

There both impressive machines, No denying that. Also they both have there strengths. It just seems the GTR has less weaknesses.
Now you wouldn't no it because of the way I'm giving props to the GTR but I'm an American muscle kind of guy so that ways in huge.
American muscle just needs to up there game. They got the power thing down good but we need AWD and real paddles (dual clutch)...Then it will be GTR what?????

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[G7C ZL1]

The really impressive thing about the GTR is that nearly anyone can make consistent launches, 1/4 mile times, and lap times; including those whose skill is actually less than their own estimation.