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Ls3ponykiller · 03-30-2017, 09:25 AM

I me getting ready to cam and do trunion upgrade along with clutch and I'm also wanting to throw a set of ported heads on there any suggestions? I appreciate it

BFASTNOTLAST · 03-30-2017, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ls3ponykiller

I me getting ready to cam and do trunion upgrade along with clutch and I'm also wanting to throw a set of ported heads on there any suggestions? I appreciate it

GPI!

frankwjr · 03-30-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BFASTNOTLAST

GPI!

Lulz...I believe he means that what ever you choose to do, work with a person(s) that will put together a complete kit based on you goals,,,when you start slappin parts on willy nilly usually the results are less than had you put it together with all the components designed to work together WITH THE PROPER TUNE! these cars are all computer, the right tuner makes ALL the diff...peace out

WHAMMO · 03-30-2017, 09:46 AM

I suggest you do the bronze bushing upgrade from CHE or from Summit Racing, if you want to try something new. Just watch out for some trunions uograde that might be less reliable than stock rockers.

LSX Camaro · 03-30-2017, 11:39 PM

WCCH West Coast Cylinder Heads, CHE rockers or Straub Technologies bushings.

Bo White · 03-31-2017, 12:42 AM

Quite a few good shops out there.

Sapper12b · 03-31-2017, 01:42 AM

Man I did ported heads on my cam install and it's bit overwhelming because there are so many good shops out there. You have MAST, TICK, Texas Speed Performance, factory GMPP, GPI, and many more. Just find something that suits your needs and compare your build to similar car builds.

christianchevell · 03-31-2017, 07:08 AM

#1 do not expect miracles from just ported heads, they are of course very similar to stock which flows plenty to support 600 rwhp already flowing numbers like ported BBC heads of yesteryear..... I just used GMPP heads factory for about 1300.... and did lots of research about different shops porting and found for a couple hp....you could pay ridiculously more, I did read for stockers Dickey Scoggins made up some for a decent price also.
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Factory CNC versus others there is not much meat on the bone IMO, now if you doing up a full race with mast ls7 small bore heads for 4 grand done up by Frankenstein with a 750 lift cam on something well ...that's a whole different ball park.

Ls3ponykiller · 04-01-2017, 03:42 PM

I appreciate it yeah I'm gonna be doing a tick stage 3 polluter cam cars already got vararam Cai, rcr ported TB, ported intake manifold, 167 thermostat, borla long tube headers to s type exhaust no cats. So basically should I just do trunion upgrade along with oil pump and new timing chain and call it good? RcR does my tuning

Bo White · 04-01-2017, 03:56 PM

Since you already have Ricks porting go ahead and round it out with his heads.

Ls3ponykiller · 04-01-2017, 04:50 PM

I'll have to see if he has some he didn't last time I checked

BFASTNOTLAST · 04-01-2017, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

Since you already have Ricks porting go ahead and round it out with his heads.

Wondering the same.......

christianchevell · 04-02-2017, 09:45 AM

Pulling and porting the heads with a cam job increases the money spent for little gain, porting is done for mostly power adders or stroking with a big cam IMO for gain.....

Add it up: porting of the stock heads...will the place even out do the stock gmpp ported cnc job? new heads about 1400$ a pair summit...... they have to clean them and reseal the valves and so most places its going to cost you at least 1/2 the price of new set of GMPP ported heads.... then you have to have new TTY bolts, new head gaskets, the $ to pull and replace the heads, and while your there if your doing a cam its righteous to go for the new Baskets for the lifters and the lifters which unless they are really low miles should be replaced.... Now if your doing the job yourself on the engine you better read up, and understand things like the preload/lash is .047 a turn on the stock studs= .070+ when you calculate in the rocker ratio....and stock happy lifter low noise zone is .040-.060 more for less noise and ls7/3/2 lifters can do more preload but that's on different engines or just a little more because of higher revs and live with the noise and well a bunch of other stuff..... Even Robert Ways DIY....he did not know back then how to do his preload right and did a few posts searching for the answer......

Me myself I have a car port, I paid for the first cam job and then for assembly of the second engine and used BR 30 break in oil and use ls30 now and did dyno tune with the best around here and HP tuning and know I have to ditch springs at 25k intervals and did not raise the upper limit as why...... Just lots of stuff to think about...Good Luck BTW this ...I read everything I could find to compare cost and quality and flow of heads before I bought mine and just went GMPP CNC that outflowed and out performed most porting by most shops for a lot less some times a real lot less. Many on here think money does not matter....

Olddudesrule · 04-02-2017, 10:37 AM

Christian, I think you own stock in BR 30 break-in oil.......

03-30-2017, 09:46 AM	#4
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,641	I suggest you do the bronze bushing upgrade from CHE or from Summit Racing, if you want to try something new. Just watch out for some trunions uograde that might be less reliable than stock rockers. __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.

03-30-2017, 11:39 PM	#5
LSX Camaro Master ASE, GM, LSX Tech. Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,034	WCCH West Coast Cylinder Heads, CHE rockers or Straub Technologies bushings. __________________ 2010 2SSRS A6, Custom Pat G. Cam, WCCH Cylinder Heads, Kooks Headers/Exhaust, BTR Valvetrain, Fluidampr 25% UDP, All Engine ARP bolts, Flex-a-lite radiator/Trans cooler, Yank converter, PFADT Suspension, ADM Race Intake/Scoop, Torq tow hook, CFD auto shifter, Dynojet AFR gauge, Aeroforce scan gauge, Brake Performance rotors/pads Prothane bushings, ZL1 wheels, spoiler, Z/28 wickerbill, 1LE Aero/Suspension Package, Anderson Composites COPO Carbon Fiber Hood, LED lighting, Elite Catch Can, Improved Racing oil pan baffle, crank scraper, windage tray 480 RWHP 452 RWTQ + Nitrous Express 150 Shot

03-31-2017, 01:42 AM	#7
Sapper12b HTCC Member Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,868 View My Garage	Man I did ported heads on my cam install and it's bit overwhelming because there are so many good shops out there. You have MAST, TICK, Texas Speed Performance, factory GMPP, GPI, and many more. Just find something that suits your needs and compare your build to similar car builds. __________________

03-31-2017, 07:08 AM	#8
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,588 View My Garage	#1 do not expect miracles from just ported heads, they are of course very similar to stock which flows plenty to support 600 rwhp already flowing numbers like ported BBC heads of yesteryear..... I just used GMPP heads factory for about 1300.... and did lots of research about different shops porting and found for a couple hp....you could pay ridiculously more, I did read for stockers Dickey Scoggins made up some for a decent price also. ' Factory CNC versus others there is not much meat on the bone IMO, now if you doing up a full race with mast ls7 small bore heads for 4 grand done up by Frankenstein with a 750 lift cam on something well ...that's a whole different ball park. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

04-02-2017, 09:45 AM	#13
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,588 View My Garage	Pulling and porting the heads with a cam job increases the money spent for little gain, porting is done for mostly power adders or stroking with a big cam IMO for gain..... Add it up: porting of the stock heads...will the place even out do the stock gmpp ported cnc job? new heads about 1400$ a pair summit...... they have to clean them and reseal the valves and so most places its going to cost you at least 1/2 the price of new set of GMPP ported heads.... then you have to have new TTY bolts, new head gaskets, the $ to pull and replace the heads, and while your there if your doing a cam its righteous to go for the new Baskets for the lifters and the lifters which unless they are really low miles should be replaced.... Now if your doing the job yourself on the engine you better read up, and understand things like the preload/lash is .047 a turn on the stock studs= .070+ when you calculate in the rocker ratio....and stock happy lifter low noise zone is .040-.060 more for less noise and ls7/3/2 lifters can do more preload but that's on different engines or just a little more because of higher revs and live with the noise and well a bunch of other stuff..... Even Robert Ways DIY....he did not know back then how to do his preload right and did a few posts searching for the answer...... Me myself I have a car port, I paid for the first cam job and then for assembly of the second engine and used BR 30 break in oil and use ls30 now and did dyno tune with the best around here and HP tuning and know I have to ditch springs at 25k intervals and did not raise the upper limit as why...... Just lots of stuff to think about...Good Luck BTW this ...I read everything I could find to compare cost and quality and flow of heads before I bought mine and just went GMPP CNC that outflowed and out performed most porting by most shops for a lot less some times a real lot less. Many on here think money does not matter.... __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

03-30-2017, 09:25 AM	#1
Ls3ponykiller Drives: 10 ss/rs ls3 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Fort Bragg Posts: 19	Ported ls3 heads? I me getting ready to cam and do trunion upgrade along with clutch and I'm also wanting to throw a set of ported heads on there any suggestions? I appreciate it

03-31-2017, 12:42 AM	#6
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Quite a few good shops out there.

04-01-2017, 03:42 PM	#9
Ls3ponykiller Drives: 10 ss/rs ls3 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Fort Bragg Posts: 19	I appreciate it yeah I'm gonna be doing a tick stage 3 polluter cam cars already got vararam Cai, rcr ported TB, ported intake manifold, 167 thermostat, borla long tube headers to s type exhaust no cats. So basically should I just do trunion upgrade along with oil pump and new timing chain and call it good? RcR does my tuning

04-01-2017, 03:56 PM	#10
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Since you already have Ricks porting go ahead and round it out with his heads.

04-01-2017, 04:50 PM	#11
Ls3ponykiller Drives: 10 ss/rs ls3 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Fort Bragg Posts: 19	I'll have to see if he has some he didn't last time I checked

04-02-2017, 10:37 AM	#14
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,766	Christian, I think you own stock in BR 30 break-in oil....... __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.