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A factory car not loaded to the gills with creature comforts and rolling office/entertainment systems... ....The "Re-Fresh"ing part of all this to me, is that they still know what a "muscle" car can be...That is, focus on the "muscle" part, and cut out the "fat"....my $.02 |
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IMO its an up to date street legal race car. Theyve doen an excellent job with. If I was on an eng.team, I'd try to strip some of the interior even further such as deleted back seat, no plastic interior components on the rear. Much of the technology in the car is must have like power locks ect. Theyre not going backwards with technology such as power locks n such but itd be nice to have manual windows as an option. I'd love to know more about the mechanical aspects of the car to see how much of it can actually be stripped away. If I had the oopertunity and know how, Id definitely try converting a V-6 to a V-8. Im not sure how much of the wiring is necessary as well as what exactly the ECU needs to perform properly. In the future, I'm thinking of buying an older non computered car and making it a race car with suspension upgrades stripped down to basically bare essentals with a modern engine in it.I've got plenty of time to figure out how exactly the ECU works. To me there has to be things that dont have to be connected to have it properly work.
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....I've thought of at some point down the road, when these cars are more affordable as used/older cars, building a stripped down street car...lol...I think more of that sort of average joe "hot-rodding" will be seen eventually... |
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04-08-2013, 12:46 PM | #89 | |
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A few points did not get red text. I didn't respond to those because I can see removing those. As for most of the other complaints, we're just feeding the troll by arguing.
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If I could buy a Z/28 at a later date I'll sure as hell do it but I beleive the price will only go up since not many will be produced. Itll be a collector car as well as a track beast.
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LOL. I did the same same thing.
Curious about 3 things with those that think the z/28 is too 'basic': 1) Those that want more amenities in a the Z/28: What are they? You can add back in A/C, if you want a better stereo you can go aftermarket. I can't see what else you really must have in a track car in terms of 'amenities' 2) What is wrong with the ZL1 for you? Isn't this the car you really want? 3) Do you actually intended to use the car at a closed circuit regularly? If you already do this, I would be very surprised to hear complaints about having more options |
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Its the same argument I have with guys as far as the 13 Shelby. All Ford did was add a bigger supercharger, up the boost, max out the block, and add a cold air intake. Apply the same concept to the ZL1. A 427, replace the 1.9 with the same 2.3 found on the ZR1, up the boost from 8psi to 14, and add a cold air. Easily over 700 horses. |
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04-08-2013, 04:34 PM | #97 | |
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-power steering (variable assist electric)—necessary for cars these days, find me one without it - power assist, yes. Electrically powered, no. -power brakes—necessary for reliability - necessary to meet pedal force requirements, not reliability -power mirrors - they do tend to hold adjustment better than and not go all loose like mechanically adjustable mirrors -ABS—necessary for reliability and safety - arguably given more credit than it deserves. -keyless entry w/panic alarm—your key fob doesn't count into the car's weight - Huh??? Once you get in the car it does. But mostly it adds complexity without improving performance -tilt steering—does not add weight - I'm sure it adds a little, but the loss of a little steering feel is the bigger factor here -telescoping steering—does not add weight - . . . see ↑↑↑ -cruise control—does not add weight - an utterly ridiculous feature for a track car. Not even necessary for a DD or trip car assuming halfway decent throttle control skill. If anything, using CC will tend to dumb down your proficiency at this skill. -12V power outlet—would be marginal weight reduction - but at least has value as a power source for a 12-v air compressor -steering wheel mounted controls—not confirmed, would be marginal weight reduction - needless complexity that can become problematic over time. -configurable lock/unlock and horn/light settings—does not add weight - more needless complexity -automatic headlights—does not add weight - nobody who is legitimately entitled to hold a driver's license should ever need this sort of thing to be done for them. Same goes for daytime running lights. -air conditioning (if you want it)—optional, and as such should not be on this list - this one is at least useful in defogging the windshield more rapidly than can be done not using it Norm |
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