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Steve · 10-30-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@CPR.com

http://store.pfadtracing.com/2010-ca...-trailing-arm/

These are what you want. We can set you up w/ any pfadt or BMR products if you wish, me personally would run the Pfdat's!

These are the ones I installed. They helped considerably.

lugnut65 · 10-30-2013, 07:14 PM

Thanks for all the response I now have a direction to go in So I can go either BMR or Phadt Is it a matter of choice,they both seem good,BMR looks more beefy(in a good way) But the phadt is less money

Fast6.3 · 10-30-2013, 10:39 PM

I got pfadt rear arm package rear upper control arm bushings pedders cradle bushing inserts and no wheel hop. If you get the bmr trailing arms make sure you get the outer bushing which is not included with the arms and is a critical bushing

Apex Motorsports · 10-31-2013, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lugnut65

Thanks for all the response I now have a direction to go in So I can go either BMR or Phadt Is it a matter of choice,they both seem good,BMR looks more beefy(in a good way) But the phadt is less money

Both companies make great parts. You can't make a wrong decision.

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Originally Posted by Fast6.3

If you get the bmr trailing arms make sure you get the outer bushing which is not included with the arms and is a critical bushing

This.

TBone · 10-31-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lugnut65

I finally got 2,000k on my 12 ss ls3 and time to start driving it I been playing around with launches and full throttle kicks And I observed two things Drive by wire blows,and the nannies are really annoying
The hesitation from a kick until the pedal catches up with the throttle blade really is a bummer Also I turned off all nannies(hold button for 10 seconds)and tried to light the tires all I got was a bunch of wheel hop
I dumped it at about 4k and it chattered all the way through first gear
Is this what we have to deal with on modern muscle cars

lugnut,

You have gotten so great answers to your short term issue but no one has asked you what your goals are with your car. So I will...

What is your GMMB?

Not just short term but long term? Because if you just put "Inserts" in and then put a cam or blower on later then you are going to have to upgrade to a solid, poly or actual solid, type bushing later thus doing twice the work. But if you put them in now you are good to go for the future.

Etc, etc... if you can give us some more info we can answer your question better so you may not have to do things twice.

T.

BMR Sales · 10-31-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lugnut65

Thanks for all the response I now have a direction to go in So I can go either BMR or Phadt Is it a matter of choice,they both seem good,BMR looks more beefy(in a good way) But the phadt is less money

You honestly can't go wrong either way, if you want shoot me a PM or an e-mail with the BMR parts you are interested in and I will see what we can do for you.

Bo White · 10-31-2013, 04:19 PM

I've put the full bushings in mine and will say if I'm going to go through the trouble of dropping my cradle down I'd just go ahead and remove the stock bushings. Time wise between the two is just the time it takes to heat the cradle.

Apex Motorsports · 11-01-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

I've put the full bushings in mine and will say if I'm going to go through the trouble of dropping my cradle down I'd just go ahead and remove the stock bushings. Time wise between the two is just the time it takes to heat the cradle.

Full bushings are the way to go.

lugnut65 · 11-01-2013, 11:43 AM

Ok IM not going to drag race the car,just want it to not wheel hop and be more fun
I have a drag car already so this will be a cruise in,and maybe car show car
I do plan on supercharger when the warentee is up,really looking at the SLP looks pretty easy to install and complete.But then I would want to put on dyno(none around here) So I thought about letting lingenfelter do the work cause its complete and I will have dyno time Anyway that's for another forum,but I just want the car to be less forgiving and smoke them tires!

JDP Sales · 11-01-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lugnut65

Ok IM not going to drag race the car,just want it to not wheel hop and be more fun
I have a drag car already so this will be a cruise in,and maybe car show car
I do plan on supercharger when the warentee is up,really looking at the SLP looks pretty easy to install and complete.But then I would want to put on dyno(none around here) So I thought about letting lingenfelter do the work cause its complete and I will have dyno time Anyway that's for another forum,but I just want the car to be less forgiving and smoke them tires!

If you plan to supercharge one day, don't waste your time with inserts. I suggest going strait for the solid bushings. The Pfadt Solid subframe bushings Part # 1410106 are the best option IMHO. At the same time I'd suggest doing the Upper control arm bushings (Part # JDPS1001) as there is a lot of overlapping labor. The trailing arm/toe rod package (Part # 1410134) would be a good thing to do at the same time as well.

You may even want to consider doing the Pfadt ZL spec stage 3 kit (Part # 1450031). This kit includes front and rear ZL spec sway bars, springs, solid bushings and the rear trailing arm/toe rod package.

Feel free to call, PM or email me with questions or for the BEST prices.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

hrpiii · 11-01-2013, 12:39 PM

My wife really hates (wink wink) the ported throttle body I put on a long time ago. She complains that the tires break loose too quickly on her (leaving a stoplight/sign). Yes, she has a heavy foot.

dookie454 · 11-02-2013, 12:39 AM

For what it's worth, I bought my car when it was cold (45Fish) with full tread tires at ~11K miles and it wheel hopped worse than anything I thought possible... then I put a Whipple on it and while it was cold, it would only wheel hop at about the "stock" power level (1/2 throttle wheel spin which was about full throttle before the Whipple).. but if I floored it and just roasted them, no wheel hop. Then it warmed up a bit and all summer long + 15k later and a full tread's worth of wheel spin later literally, no wheel hop no matter what I did this whole time.... then now it's colder 45F and holy shit it wheel hops at partial throttle like no other again!

Just thought the change in temp (lack of tire traction) and wheel hop was weird (fully stock suspension+tires)

10-30-2013, 07:14 PM	#16
lugnut65 Drives: 12 2SS/RS 45th L99 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: lucasville,oh Posts: 63	Thanks for all the response I now have a direction to go in So I can go either BMR or Phadt Is it a matter of choice,they both seem good,BMR looks more beefy(in a good way) But the phadt is less money __________________ 12 RS/SS 45th L99,CAI,AND BORLA CB 70 CHEVELLE SS LSX408

10-30-2013, 10:39 PM	#17
Fast6.3 Drives: 2016 2SS coupe 2015 3LT Stingray Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El paso texas Posts: 880 View My Garage	I got pfadt rear arm package rear upper control arm bushings pedders cradle bushing inserts and no wheel hop. If you get the bmr trailing arms make sure you get the outer bushing which is not included with the arms and is a critical bushing __________________ Ported intake manifold and throttle body kooks 2" headers no cats

10-31-2013, 04:19 PM	#21
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I've put the full bushings in mine and will say if I'm going to go through the trouble of dropping my cradle down I'd just go ahead and remove the stock bushings. Time wise between the two is just the time it takes to heat the cradle. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

11-01-2013, 11:43 AM	#23
lugnut65 Drives: 12 2SS/RS 45th L99 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: lucasville,oh Posts: 63	Ok IM not going to drag race the car,just want it to not wheel hop and be more fun I have a drag car already so this will be a cruise in,and maybe car show car I do plan on supercharger when the warentee is up,really looking at the SLP looks pretty easy to install and complete.But then I would want to put on dyno(none around here) So I thought about letting lingenfelter do the work cause its complete and I will have dyno time Anyway that's for another forum,but I just want the car to be less forgiving and smoke them tires! __________________ 12 RS/SS 45th L99,CAI,AND BORLA CB 70 CHEVELLE SS LSX408

11-01-2013, 12:39 PM	#25
hrpiii AKA "Beefcake" Drives: 2023 ZL1 Sharkskin Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 8,529	My wife really hates (wink wink) the ported throttle body I put on a long time ago. She complains that the tires break loose too quickly on her (leaving a stoplight/sign). Yes, she has a heavy foot.

11-02-2013, 12:39 AM	#26
dookie454 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 143	For what it's worth, I bought my car when it was cold (45Fish) with full tread tires at ~11K miles and it wheel hopped worse than anything I thought possible... then I put a Whipple on it and while it was cold, it would only wheel hop at about the "stock" power level (1/2 throttle wheel spin which was about full throttle before the Whipple).. but if I floored it and just roasted them, no wheel hop. Then it warmed up a bit and all summer long + 15k later and a full tread's worth of wheel spin later literally, no wheel hop no matter what I did this whole time.... then now it's colder 45F and holy shit it wheel hops at partial throttle like no other again! Just thought the change in temp (lack of tire traction) and wheel hop was weird (fully stock suspension+tires)